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>They grew up on the koolaid (no offense, so did I) you grew up thinking you were drinking koolaid, but you weren't, it was indeed fine wine. > of how awesome
by fsckboy 2y ago
>They grew up on the koolaid (no offense, so did I)
you grew up thinking you were drinking koolaid, but you weren't, it was indeed fine wine.
> of how awesome Linux and BSD are
it's hard to think of two things more awesome than those two things. There's no koolaid, they are monumental achievements and are amazing.
>the GNU principles that closed source software is unethical
Stallman is/was a socialist, so yes, he had a Marxist take, "from those who have the ability, to those who have the need" and "there should be a limit to concentration of wealth regardless of the value of what you provide": much like so many people here. So yes, that's koolaid, but given that a majority of young people/people here believe it, you can't really pin that koolaid on GNU or open source, that's koolaid that was brought from home.
But the rest of Stallman's idea and motivation, that if you find an annoying bug while using your printer, you and everybody else benefits if you have the source to the printer driver to fix it: that's not koolaid, that's the same type of can-do idea that drove "American ingenuity" on the frontier. It's nice to be able to fix a printer just like the blacksmith could fix your plough, and once in awhile we get together for a barn-raisin'.
I just think you're oversimplifying and mixing separate concepts.
- refulgentis 2y agoThis seems to be tone deaf fluffy theory in the face of "well, I can't afford to eat but at least some guy online says it's fine wine" Printer driver is a nice motivating story but in practice its a lotta work for no benefit
- fsckboy 2y agothe entire web grew up on and still runs on open source, and everything lamented today as "wrong" with the web is proprietary. there is no fluffy theory, i have no idea what you are talking about. you're just not grateful for what you have, you're (analogy) like a teenager who assumes you're entitled to everything your parents provide... wait till you have kids of your own and you realize your parents had no fluffy illusions
- CRConrad 2y ago> Printer driver is a nice motivating story but in practice its a lotta work for no benefit Printer driver is what the Free Software movement, and therefore its bastard son the Open Source movement, comes from. But, sure, you want to call that "no benefit", you do you, man...
- refulgentis 2y agoStrawman. We're discussing an article about someone whose job (was) open source. I never said open source has "no benefit". I specifically linked it to the specific article we are specifically discussing and how the specifics ruled out similarities to altering your printer driver.