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> You do need to develop a very thick skin in OSS to be able to thrive. Yet, users or submitters of open-source must be coddled? One of the chief complaints ab

> You do need to develop a very thick skin in OSS to be able to thrive. Yet, users or submitters of open-source must be coddled? One of the chief complaints about Linus Torvolds is his blunt communication style in response to poor quality code. So OSS developers must be able to accept very harsh critism or even insults but always be kind to users who offer nothing in return?

jraph 2y ago
Torvalds was unnecessarily unrespectful. He fixed this. Now, he is still to the point and harsh when needed, but in a respectful way. That works and it's still as effective, if not better (because, it turns out, you are more eager to take something in account if it's not insulting you). > So OSS developers must be able to accept very harsh critism or even insults but always be kind to users who offer nothing in return? For one's own sake, yes, it's better to be able to take the messages one receives. And no, this doesn't grant you the permission to be sloppy and not careful when communicating with other human beings. Now of course if someone insulted you, you'd be forgiven to not be overly nice with this person. Though avoiding to lower yourself to this person's level is the better option if you can help it. I personally find that someone who insulted someone else who responded with class looks particularly bad.
- mrlonglong 2y ago
  I remember Alan Cox quitting Linux development for the same reasons. Today he works on miniature railways and 8 bit microprocessors with Fuzix.
  - raverbashing 2y ago
    Wow, I missed this Well good for him!
franciscop 2y ago
> So OSS developers must be able to accept very harsh critism or even insults but always be kind to users who offer nothing in return? I absolutely didn't say that, please don't twist my words. Not only did I not answer about the OSS dev response, but I also didn't make a moral judgement of what must be done, both of which you are attributing to me. They can answer with insults for all I care, but that's a lose-lose situation. The way the OSS is set up today is that you WILL get shit, so you should be able to weather it without it affecting you.
eviks 2y ago
One of the chief complaints is extreme rudeness/insulting behavior, not your confusion with bluntness.

jraph 2y ago

Torvalds was unnecessarily unrespectful. He fixed this. Now, he is still to the point and harsh when needed, but in a respectful way. That works and it's still as effective, if not better (because, it turns out, you are more eager to take something in account if it's not insulting you). > So OSS developers must be able to accept very harsh critism or even insults but always be kind to users who offer nothing in return? For one's own sake, yes, it's better to be able to take the messages one receives. And no, this doesn't grant you the permission to be sloppy and not careful when communicating with other human beings. Now of course if someone insulted you, you'd be forgiven to not be overly nice with this person. Though avoiding to lower yourself to this person's level is the better option if you can help it. I personally find that someone who insulted someone else who responded with class looks particularly bad.

mrlonglong 2y ago
I remember Alan Cox quitting Linux development for the same reasons. Today he works on miniature railways and 8 bit microprocessors with Fuzix.
- raverbashing 2y ago
  Wow, I missed this Well good for him!

franciscop 2y ago

> So OSS developers must be able to accept very harsh critism or even insults but always be kind to users who offer nothing in return? I absolutely didn't say that, please don't twist my words. Not only did I not answer about the OSS dev response, but I also didn't make a moral judgement of what must be done, both of which you are attributing to me. They can answer with insults for all I care, but that's a lose-lose situation. The way the OSS is set up today is that you WILL get shit, so you should be able to weather it without it affecting you.

eviks 2y ago

One of the chief complaints is extreme rudeness/insulting behavior, not your confusion with bluntness.