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Lower mortality, hospital readmission rates if treated by female physicians
- nickburns 2y agohttps://www.acpjournals.org/doi/10.7326/M23-3163 https://www.acpjournals.org/doi/10.7326/M23-3163
- throwawaysleep 2y agoAnecdotally, women care more about strangers than men do. Men also go along with my amoral schemes much more than women do.
- polka_haunts_us 2y agoAny amoral schemes you care to share with the class?
- anonymous_union 2y ago[flagged]
- 01HNNWZ0MV43FF 2y agoI've definitely gotten jealous of other women. Though if my personality leaked into my software it would be more like envy, resentment, nostalgia, and FOMO. I wonder if that describes any existing tech projects?
- anonymous_union 2y agoyour personality for sure is represented in the software you write. no different than any other creative profession.
- beastman82 2y agoAre those male flaws?
- anonymous_union 2y agoyes
- saagarjha 2y agoThe seven deadly sins are for men of course
- j6zauas4gz 2y agoMakes sense. Female professionals generally have to work harder to overcome gender biases that are still frustratingly prevalent in society. And I assume that those biases are more pronounced in older populations which make up the bulk of healthcare patients, which could make the above need to work harder even more pronounced, maybe? So many noisy data inputs here its hard to draw meaningful conclusions
- karencarits 2y agoI guess there might also be confounders, as the patients aren't randomized. For example, if more senior consultants are males due to a gender bias in earlier years, they may be involved in more complicated cases, and so on. Some specialities are quite gender biased, which may also impact the outcome
- zmk5 2y agoThe difference is 0.2%. Honestly thought the difference would be much higher. I'll need to read the actual paper to get whether they found this statistically significant.
- tedunangst 2y agoCompared with other factors like day of admission. > Patients admitted on a Saturday and Sunday have a 10 per cent and 15 per cent higher risk of death than those admitted on a Wednesday.
- prepend 2y agoBut isn’t that because in weekend admits are rare and only done in serious situations where death is more likely?
- wisty 2y agoIt will be statisticaly significant but if there's any confounders at all it's a correlation but not necessarily causation.
- leereeves 2y agoThey know a lot of people only read the headline, so how difficult would it have been to add five characters to the headline: "Patients 0.2% ‘less likely to die’ if treated by a female doctor, study reveals" It's borderline dishonest not to.
- prvc 2y agoAlso worth considering publication bias: any result in the other direction will not get published.
- _akhe 2y agoRelated: https://nypost.com/2017/03/22/staring-at-boobs-may-give-a-boost-to-male-lifespans https://nypost.com/2017/03/22/staring-at-boobs-may-give-a-bo... /s
- beaeglebeachh 2y agoNow do versus race as identified in med school admissions. I'm curious if the variance in entry standards vs race poison the well for certain professionals.
- petesergeant 2y agoHow would you control for idiot racists who believed they were getting a lower standard of care from certain ethnicities and ensuing psychosomatic effects?
- beaeglebeachh 2y agoHow did they control for idiot bigots who believed they were getting a lower standard of care from certain gender and ensuing psychosomatic effects?
- petesergeant 2y agoThey don't, but as they're not looking to link it to "variance in entry standards vs race [that] poison the well", they don't need to control for it: bigotry being a possible explanation for their findings would be a reasonable conclusion.
- underlipton 2y agoThat's a good question. Since, IIRC, men in professional positions tend to score higher on perceived competence, it'd be actually even more damning if they didn't control for that properly.
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- andrewmutz 2y agoMortality is unambiguous
- wjb3 2y ago
- overrun11 2y agoIf the conclusion were the reverse then we wouldn't be reading about it.
- saagarjha 2y agoSure we would.
- squigz 2y agoWhy do you think that?
- davidmurdoch 2y agoCancel culture can ruin careers
- wisty 2y agoCan you point out the last hn submission with scientific proof that men might be better than women at something? If not, is this because there's nothing men are better at, or that if there is we won't read about it? And by "better at", I don't meant "better at being worse", I mean better in a way that is admirable. Though in fairness this article will probably be memory holed so it can go both ways.
- aussiegreenie 2y agoIt is the same as female CEOs. They have a higher ROI and better stats for companies overall. I think it is so much harder for a woman to become a senior anything, the better people self-select. In risk management is it easier to avoid wipe-outs and so the returns are better.
- BurningFrog 2y agoReminder that many scientific studies turn out to not be reproducible. That is especially true for the ones with surprising/viral results!