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Article is really about the unofficially called "Carplay 2", a deeper integration that Apple announced in 2022 but hasn't been heard about since. As the articl

Article is really about the unofficially called "Carplay 2", a deeper integration that Apple announced in 2022 but hasn't been heard about since. As the article itself says, CarPlay Original Flavor is a massive success, I'm in the "79% of drivers only consider a car if it has CarPlay" (bye-bye GM!)

randomdata 2y ago
> (bye-bye GM!) To be fair, at this point only the Ultium EV-based models won't have CarPlay, and they are struggling to build them anyway. Even if they do figure out the production issues and achieve the targets of their wildest dreams, they will still only account for around 6% of all the vehicles GM produces. They're not exactly betting the farm on it.
genmud 2y ago
I sold my GM truck because of how horrible the head unit was. I am still driving my 8 year old f150 because the infotainment system works fairly well.
ComputerGuru 2y ago
Apparently this isn't true. If you have a car where the 2nd screen behind the steering wheel also shows CarPlay-related stuff, you have CarPlay 2 (or so I've been told). It's just not as invasive and all-or-nothing as it was billed to be.
- sitharus 2y ago
  CarPlay 2 is arriving late 2024 according to Apple, so it's definitely not a CarPlay 2 feature. Dual screen CarPlay was released in 2019 https://www.theverge.com/2019/9/20/20875604/apple-carplay-ios13-multiple-screen-no-support https://www.theverge.com/2019/9/20/20875604/apple-carplay-io...
- MBCook 2y ago
  No. There are three things, which makes it confusing. 1: “original” CarPlay. Shows up on your head unit 2: enhanced “original” CarPlay. Some cars can show the map or turn by turn instructions behind the steering wheel on a screen there 3: “new” CarPlay. This is where CarPlay fully takes over every screen. Nothing has been released, I think only one very expensive model has even said they’re going it. Today e dry one has #1 or #2. The article is about a mix of #3 and maybe a version of #3 run on the car not the phone, like Android Automotive. The lack of distinct names for things on both the Apple side and Google side (auto vs automotive) just makes this all very hard to discuss at times.
  - thedougd 2y ago
    Any idea when #2 was released? I have a 2019 Honda. Android Auto can use the instrument panel as a second screen but CarPlay cannot. I miss seeing the next-turn distance countdown right in front of me.
    - MBCook 2y ago
      I know it requires both sides to support it. My car originally didn’t but a later update to my car enabled it. I don’t know when the first car got that, it’s possible it simply didn’t exist when yours was made. Or maybe it did and they just didn’t bother? I don’t know. My car doesn’t have the version where it just shows Apple Maps, which I would love. Instead the next turn/etc. is clearly being sent to the cars operating system because it gets displayed the same way the cars internal navigation stuff does on the screen behind the wheel.
    - davidcsally 2y ago
      I have a 2023 rav4 prime and it shows apple maps directions in the instrument cluster and HUD, maybe that counts?
  - jojobas 2y ago
    I'd say trusting phone vendors whether to show me an oil pressure warning is kinda stupid, but that's just me.
robertoandred 2y ago
Huh? There were updates a few months ago https://www.macrumors.com/2024/01/27/apple-confirms-next-gen-carplay-launches-2024/ https://www.macrumors.com/2024/01/27/apple-confirms-next-gen...

randomdata 2y ago

> (bye-bye GM!) To be fair, at this point only the Ultium EV-based models won't have CarPlay, and they are struggling to build them anyway. Even if they do figure out the production issues and achieve the targets of their wildest dreams, they will still only account for around 6% of all the vehicles GM produces. They're not exactly betting the farm on it.

genmud 2y ago

I sold my GM truck because of how horrible the head unit was. I am still driving my 8 year old f150 because the infotainment system works fairly well.

ComputerGuru 2y ago

Apparently this isn't true. If you have a car where the 2nd screen behind the steering wheel also shows CarPlay-related stuff, you have CarPlay 2 (or so I've been told). It's just not as invasive and all-or-nothing as it was billed to be.

sitharus 2y ago
CarPlay 2 is arriving late 2024 according to Apple, so it's definitely not a CarPlay 2 feature. Dual screen CarPlay was released in 2019 https://www.theverge.com/2019/9/20/20875604/apple-carplay-ios13-multiple-screen-no-support https://www.theverge.com/2019/9/20/20875604/apple-carplay-io...
MBCook 2y ago
No. There are three things, which makes it confusing. 1: “original” CarPlay. Shows up on your head unit 2: enhanced “original” CarPlay. Some cars can show the map or turn by turn instructions behind the steering wheel on a screen there 3: “new” CarPlay. This is where CarPlay fully takes over every screen. Nothing has been released, I think only one very expensive model has even said they’re going it. Today e dry one has #1 or #2. The article is about a mix of #3 and maybe a version of #3 run on the car not the phone, like Android Automotive. The lack of distinct names for things on both the Apple side and Google side (auto vs automotive) just makes this all very hard to discuss at times.
- thedougd 2y ago
  Any idea when #2 was released? I have a 2019 Honda. Android Auto can use the instrument panel as a second screen but CarPlay cannot. I miss seeing the next-turn distance countdown right in front of me.
  - MBCook 2y ago
    I know it requires both sides to support it. My car originally didn’t but a later update to my car enabled it. I don’t know when the first car got that, it’s possible it simply didn’t exist when yours was made. Or maybe it did and they just didn’t bother? I don’t know. My car doesn’t have the version where it just shows Apple Maps, which I would love. Instead the next turn/etc. is clearly being sent to the cars operating system because it gets displayed the same way the cars internal navigation stuff does on the screen behind the wheel.
  - davidcsally 2y ago
    I have a 2023 rav4 prime and it shows apple maps directions in the instrument cluster and HUD, maybe that counts?
- jojobas 2y ago
  I'd say trusting phone vendors whether to show me an oil pressure warning is kinda stupid, but that's just me.

robertoandred 2y ago

Huh? There were updates a few months ago https://www.macrumors.com/2024/01/27/apple-confirms-next-gen-carplay-launches-2024/ https://www.macrumors.com/2024/01/27/apple-confirms-next-gen...