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Question : Why larry and brin not caring about it ? They built one of world's best and biggest company and it's dying . Even if they did not care about that , t
by arromatic 2y ago
Question : Why larry and brin not caring about it ? They built one of world's best and biggest company and it's dying . Even if they did not care about that , their money is still tied to google stock right ? That should raise some concern from them.
- cynicalsecurity 2y agoMaybe they know that the AI is going to destroy Google anyway, same as any other search engine, so why bother.
- riku_iki 2y agothey have much more money than they really need for everyday happiness.
- arromatic 2y ago100 billion (round figured) isn't a lot when you are going to create a new large company or invent fusion or fix climate .
- riku_iki 2y agoI have impression they just enjoy their billioners lives, and do not have ambitions anymore. Also Larry has some sickness, so, maybe he has other life issues depending on his current condition.
- taco_emoji 2y agowhy are you assuming they care to do any of those things?
- sidcool 2y agoThey have achieved Nirvana. And they have enough dough to last several lifetimes.
- pfortuny 2y agoConcern why? https://es.finance.yahoo.com/quote/GOOG/?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAAfpbOfJCpq9ep6hvgFLXSihACCxBXPiYEQjOsUmh5iMQu1iI8RKIFWeLg3DCrtBY4cAjIn3fat4kEfBrtU61pBkvNTH5JoWjQjiTztdG21-yHnQr5tDlRYVnUd_nLPZnsZ2lxp7FNl6kt-uuZgElg9jTyrlJT9IYGUpfiGoQjGL https://es.finance.yahoo.com/quote/GOOG/?guccounter=1&guce_r...
- danielmarkbruce 2y agospeculation: they care, they know the people involved, and think highly of them. Larry & Sergey are only humans. They can get bamboozled by people just like anyone. And they are in a situation where the very best bamboozlers are trying to bamboozle them, all the time. The people "failing up" are, in some cases, the Lebron James's of bamboozlement. It's quite strange to see very capable people fall for such types, but it happens, I've seen it - and everyone around saw it except the very capable person.
- arromatic 2y agoI assume they use google search at least once after fall in quality and noticed it . Or maybe they got google search founder edition for Them. Edit : Does any one have email/twitter of larry/brin ? If you have can you try emailing them . Or is it public ? Gonna try emailing them
- spaceman_2020 2y agoPichai must be Grima Wormtongue tier bamboozler
- ametrau 2y agoTo be fair, he has increased the stock price. (And created a product and company that is basically universally loathed)
- slotrans 2y agotrained by the best at McKinsey
- dekhn 2y agoNo Vic Gundotra was Grima to Larry's Theoden. There was a TGIF where prominent Search leaders (highest level of engineer, not management) openly asked Larry why we were being asked to compromise the quality of Google search to grow Google+ when GOogle+ was such a crappy and unpopular product. Larry just sort of lamely asked "can't you all get along" and then shortly afterwards, abdicated to Pichai (whose main skill was mainly to get all the SVPs to stop shivving each other in the quest to grow revenue). It was pretty clear that Vic had somehow convinced Larry through grima-style wormtonguing that social feed was the future for google, and Larry had fallen for it. The difference being, there was no gandalf to come along and reinvigorate Larry.
- potatolicious 2y agoPurely speculation of course, but based on what they've been up to since letting go of the reigns of Google: because squeezing every possible drop of revenue out of the product helps fund the things they're now more interested in engaging in (self-driving, longevity, etc.) The cynical assumption would be that they're just sitting on the extremely vast hoards of money and greedy for more. The (slightly) less cynical assumption is that their interest in Search nowadays is as a piggy bank for projects they consider more important. Worth noting though the latter has long been the going assumption internally at Google: Search was the cash cow that funded Google's expeditions in finding the Next Big Thing. This plan has been complicated by the appearance that Google seems to not be terribly good at the kind of product execution that would lead them to the Next Big Thing.
- morphentropic 2y agoMan they used to drop some awesome stuff: Google Maps, GMail (remember the hype over Gmail invites?), Google Earth... then they just stopped improving stuff and started releasing multiple versions of things and abandoned them all, over and over again. Very strange.
- arromatic 2y agoThey could at least open source all the stuff on google graveyard which will give us so many awesome softwares . Sadly they are now now sitting on some random hard drives.
- hnfong 2y agoGoogle Wave was open sourced as Apache Wave, I think. Not sure whether anyone actually utilized it...
- shadowgovt 2y agoNot really. The relevant parts of those programs are basically buildable based on a list of their features. The technology that one would get in an open source situation isn't very usable outside of Google's ecosystem because Google builds software on top of Google's stack. Like, without the monitoring infrastructure they've built or the Borg scaling infrastructure, their software is actually kind of fragile because the ethos is " If it starts to malfunction break it quickly so it can cause a monitoring event and to get replaced by auto restart." The Google way of doing things is actually not a great way to architect most software that isn't running on a giant data center structure.
- beachy 2y agoThey may be concerned, but what can they do? Google has poisoned the well, and the entire web is now a swamp of SEO driven drivel. Forget about a "Jobs returning to Apple" miracle. As they say, "you can't get there from here". There's no easy path for Google back from the short term profit-driven corner they've painted all of us into.
- spaceman_2020 2y agoThe web is over now. Google first, AI later killed any incentive to create content for the open web
- PaulDavisThe1st 2y agoPerhaps you're talking about financial incentives. And if so, then perhaps you might be right. But there are plenty of other incentives that AI hasn't touched at all.
- hinkley 2y agoI knew Google had jumped the shark when Larry and Sergey started trying to convert a Boeing jet into a corporate jet. That was a couple of years before the rest of us started smelling smoke coming out.
- arromatic 2y agoI am unable to understand your comment . Can you please explain a little bit more ?
- deanCommie 2y agoTheir passion and energy used to go into organizing the world's information and presenting it to google users at an unprecedented cost. Their passion and energy now goes into designing the most comfortable super jet for their free time. [is OP's implication, i have no idea if it's true]
- leephillips 2y agoAnd they know exactly what’s happening. In 2006 they said, “we expect that advertising funded search engines will be inherently biased towards the advertisers and away from the needs of the consumers.” http://www.zdnet.com/article/google-advertising-and-search-engine-bias/ http://www.zdnet.com/article/google-advertising-and-search-e...
- xjay 2y agoI can imagine this happening in many places: 1) Idealist phase. 2) Hype phase. 3) Novelty wears off = Leave. 4) Bean counter phase. 5) ???
- arromatic 2y agoWhat does it mean ?
- fidotron 2y agoI have long suspected there is more to it than that, the giveaway being that once you are in what is currently the Alphabet level executive group a fundamentally different set of rules and standards are applied compared to what is considered allowed in Google, and these two did not used to be so divergent. This is a far dirtier game than many want to accept.
- arromatic 2y agoCan you explain a bit more ?
- spaceman_2020 2y agoYou get older, you lose the willpower and energy to fight the machine They have enormous power, but they are now also up against vast armies of lawyers and executives and lobbyists who will whisper and whine in their ears all day Do I, Larry Page, really want to deal with all of that with my failing health and depleting energy?
- smt88 2y agoThey don't care about Alphabet/Google at all. They've fully moved on. Even if Alphabet lost all its market value tomorrow, they've already cashed out enough of their stock to have thousands of lifetimes of money.
- denton-scratch 2y agoI assume their wealth is not particularly tied to Google stock. Eggs, baskets etc.