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Sounds like the union is not strong enough. 50 workers being fired should be enough for everyone else to be like wtf.

by evolve2k 2y ago

onlyrealcuzzo 2y ago
Why should 50 workers not be fired for disrupting the workplace to push a political agenda?
- zrn900 2y ago
  Political? Children are being murdered in live video in front of the eyes of the entire world. This is not an exaggeration. Those who propagate it are posting videos on the Israeli internet and these are being propagated to the 80% of the world that you call the global south. Them not reaching your eyes because the complicit media in the West keeps them out of sight does not mean that the rest of the world is not able to access them. All the companies who collaborate with Israel in their activities are being vilified in the rest of the world at this moment. And rightfully so. If IBM selling machinery to the Nazi government during Ww2 so that they could run their concentration camps was a bad thing to do, this is the same. The standing of all these corporations is being affected just like how the standing of the US went to hell with their complicity and the Biden admn. is trying to put out the fire with its hollow pr declarations. That is the rational, business-angle approach to this. From the human angle, anyone who condones a corporation that helps a vicious extremist government to murder children would be classified as a sociopath. Not 'rational'. Everyone who abets and aids this and everyone who defends them is complicit with what is happening in Gaza. ... I know that a lot of you, the tech and business colleagues who are regulars of this forum, will take these statements as 'emotional', 'non-rational', and 'unrealistic' and you will think that the resulting diplomatic and business fallout wont be that bad. That is not how it seems from the global south. Israel appears as an unrepentant genocidal rogue state and from the US to Europe who aid and abet them are seen as hypocritical fcks. If even Joseph Borrell, the Eu parliamentarian who likes to openly classify Europe as 'a garden' and the rest of the world as 'jungle', started saying that the West is appearing as a hypocrite with its Gaza policy and losing its diplomatic standing and clout in the eyes of the rest of the world, there is no debating what's happening. Long story short, you are all appearing as hypocritical fcks, including Google who went all the way to lay off those who protested its complicity in what 80% of the world considers a genocide. This wont go away. (amazing - someone from the global south is telling these people what the people who live there think and what the public opinion is turning towards, and they are downvoting the messenger as a response as if it will make their problem go away)
- evolve2k 2y ago
  Joining a union is essentially saying you're ready to throw down for any worker, even a stranger, and you know without having to ask that they've made the same promise to you. Metal as hell, everyone should do it. {Credit: T Arnold}
  - seanmcdirmid 2y ago
    > Joining a union is essentially saying you're ready to throw down for any worker, even a stranger, and you know without having to ask that they've made the same promise to you. No. Joining a union means you agree to collective action. Niche political positions wouldn't really qualify, and if pushed, would actual tear the union apart because just any many people are against as are for.
- CommanderData 2y ago
  Israel has killed 74 children every day for the past 200 days. 74 children a day. Murdered. Mostly precision airstrikes. Google helps the same people committing this.
- KenArrari 2y ago
  Read the article. Many of the employees fired were not even on the premises that day. This is 100% pure political reprisals, which is illegal in California.
  - JumpCrisscross 2y ago
    > Many of the employees fired were not even on the premises that day If they facilitated its planning they aren’t being fired for their beliefs, but for their actions.
    - KenArrari 2y ago
      I must once again point you back to the article.
      - JumpCrisscross 2y ago
        > must once again point you back to the article Where in it does it absolve those fired who weren’t physically on premises of otherwise being involved?
        KenArrari 2y ago
        They said they weren't involved. But they were involved in protesting. Does standing in front of a doorway require a comlpicated planning initiative? There is absolutely nothing they could have done other than speak about it. Which is all they're being accused of anyway.

Sounds like the union is not strong enough. 50 workers being fired should be enough for everyone else to be like wtf.

onlyrealcuzzo 2y ago

Why should 50 workers not be fired for disrupting the workplace to push a political agenda?

zrn900 2y ago
Political? Children are being murdered in live video in front of the eyes of the entire world. This is not an exaggeration. Those who propagate it are posting videos on the Israeli internet and these are being propagated to the 80% of the world that you call the global south. Them not reaching your eyes because the complicit media in the West keeps them out of sight does not mean that the rest of the world is not able to access them. All the companies who collaborate with Israel in their activities are being vilified in the rest of the world at this moment. And rightfully so. If IBM selling machinery to the Nazi government during Ww2 so that they could run their concentration camps was a bad thing to do, this is the same. The standing of all these corporations is being affected just like how the standing of the US went to hell with their complicity and the Biden admn. is trying to put out the fire with its hollow pr declarations. That is the rational, business-angle approach to this. From the human angle, anyone who condones a corporation that helps a vicious extremist government to murder children would be classified as a sociopath. Not 'rational'. Everyone who abets and aids this and everyone who defends them is complicit with what is happening in Gaza. ... I know that a lot of you, the tech and business colleagues who are regulars of this forum, will take these statements as 'emotional', 'non-rational', and 'unrealistic' and you will think that the resulting diplomatic and business fallout wont be that bad. That is not how it seems from the global south. Israel appears as an unrepentant genocidal rogue state and from the US to Europe who aid and abet them are seen as hypocritical fcks. If even Joseph Borrell, the Eu parliamentarian who likes to openly classify Europe as 'a garden' and the rest of the world as 'jungle', started saying that the West is appearing as a hypocrite with its Gaza policy and losing its diplomatic standing and clout in the eyes of the rest of the world, there is no debating what's happening. Long story short, you are all appearing as hypocritical fcks, including Google who went all the way to lay off those who protested its complicity in what 80% of the world considers a genocide. This wont go away. (amazing - someone from the global south is telling these people what the people who live there think and what the public opinion is turning towards, and they are downvoting the messenger as a response as if it will make their problem go away)
evolve2k 2y ago
Joining a union is essentially saying you're ready to throw down for any worker, even a stranger, and you know without having to ask that they've made the same promise to you. Metal as hell, everyone should do it. {Credit: T Arnold}
- seanmcdirmid 2y ago
  > Joining a union is essentially saying you're ready to throw down for any worker, even a stranger, and you know without having to ask that they've made the same promise to you. No. Joining a union means you agree to collective action. Niche political positions wouldn't really qualify, and if pushed, would actual tear the union apart because just any many people are against as are for.
CommanderData 2y ago
Israel has killed 74 children every day for the past 200 days. 74 children a day. Murdered. Mostly precision airstrikes. Google helps the same people committing this.
KenArrari 2y ago
Read the article. Many of the employees fired were not even on the premises that day. This is 100% pure political reprisals, which is illegal in California.
- JumpCrisscross 2y ago
  > Many of the employees fired were not even on the premises that day If they facilitated its planning they aren’t being fired for their beliefs, but for their actions.
  - KenArrari 2y ago
    I must once again point you back to the article.
    - JumpCrisscross 2y ago
      > must once again point you back to the article Where in it does it absolve those fired who weren’t physically on premises of otherwise being involved?
      - KenArrari 2y ago
        They said they weren't involved. But they were involved in protesting. Does standing in front of a doorway require a comlpicated planning initiative? There is absolutely nothing they could have done other than speak about it. Which is all they're being accused of anyway.