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0123456789 are best called "European", I think, as Arabic numerals would be: ٠١٢٣٤٥٦٧٨٩

by bloak 2y ago

8organicbits 2y ago
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabic_numerals https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabic_numerals
- arp242 2y ago
  "They are also called [..] European digits"
  - shagie 2y ago
    The reference chases through to https://www.unicode.org/terminology/digits.html https://www.unicode.org/terminology/digits.html Term: ASCII digits Example: 0123456789 U+0030..U+0039 Explanation/Description: Commonly used with Latin, Greek, Cyrillic and many other scripts, including some non-European scripts. Used in alternation with native digits in scripts that have them. (Some scripts with native digits make only limited use of ASCII digits.) Infrequently used in many of the remaining scripts. Synonyms: Western digits, Latin digits, European digits Which then links on to: https://www.unicode.org/glossary/#european_digits https://www.unicode.org/glossary/#european_digits > European Digits. Forms of decimal digits first used in Europe and now used worldwide. Historically, these digits were derived from the Arabic digits; they are sometimes called “Arabic numerals,” but this nomenclature leads to confusion with the real Arabic-Indic digits. Also called "Western digits" and "Latin digits." See Terminology for Digits for additional information on terminology related to digits.
  - Dylan16807 2y ago
    That's the last entry in the list, so it's not very supportive of the idea that they are "best" called that.
    - arp242 2y ago
      Well sure, but the previous poster was making a proposal ("I think"), and just doing a link dump implies ignorance, which fairly obviously isn't the case. I think anyone who has dealt with both Arabic numerals (as used in Europe) and Arabic numerals (as used in parts of the Arabian world) feels the naming is unfortunate. Arguably this is not the best place to bring that up, but I certainly stopped using "Arabic numerals" after working with some i18n code which supported both Arabic and Arabic numerals.
      - toast0 2y ago
        Maybe not the best names, but I've taken to calling them Western Arabic, Arabic Arabic, and Persian or Urdu Arabic. I typically only deal with the Unicode representation, so the differences between Persian and Urdu numerals are invisible to me (but very visible if you display them with the wrong language context for the viewer!)

0123456789 are best called "European", I think, as Arabic numerals would be: ٠١٢٣٤٥٦٧٨٩

by bloak 2y ago

0123456789 are best called "European", I think, as Arabic numerals would be: ٠١٢٣٤٥٦٧٨٩

8organicbits 2y ago

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabic_numerals https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabic_numerals

arp242 2y ago
"They are also called [..] European digits"
- shagie 2y ago
  The reference chases through to https://www.unicode.org/terminology/digits.html https://www.unicode.org/terminology/digits.html Term: ASCII digits Example: 0123456789 U+0030..U+0039 Explanation/Description: Commonly used with Latin, Greek, Cyrillic and many other scripts, including some non-European scripts. Used in alternation with native digits in scripts that have them. (Some scripts with native digits make only limited use of ASCII digits.) Infrequently used in many of the remaining scripts. Synonyms: Western digits, Latin digits, European digits Which then links on to: https://www.unicode.org/glossary/#european_digits https://www.unicode.org/glossary/#european_digits > European Digits. Forms of decimal digits first used in Europe and now used worldwide. Historically, these digits were derived from the Arabic digits; they are sometimes called “Arabic numerals,” but this nomenclature leads to confusion with the real Arabic-Indic digits. Also called "Western digits" and "Latin digits." See Terminology for Digits for additional information on terminology related to digits.
- Dylan16807 2y ago
  That's the last entry in the list, so it's not very supportive of the idea that they are "best" called that.
  - arp242 2y ago
    Well sure, but the previous poster was making a proposal ("I think"), and just doing a link dump implies ignorance, which fairly obviously isn't the case. I think anyone who has dealt with both Arabic numerals (as used in Europe) and Arabic numerals (as used in parts of the Arabian world) feels the naming is unfortunate. Arguably this is not the best place to bring that up, but I certainly stopped using "Arabic numerals" after working with some i18n code which supported both Arabic and Arabic numerals.
    - toast0 2y ago
      Maybe not the best names, but I've taken to calling them Western Arabic, Arabic Arabic, and Persian or Urdu Arabic. I typically only deal with the Unicode representation, so the differences between Persian and Urdu numerals are invisible to me (but very visible if you display them with the wrong language context for the viewer!)