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As a frequent traveler (80 flights alone last year), I feel like this bill is rather useless. First, Clear is not present at all airports. Sometimes it's not e

As a frequent traveler (80 flights alone last year), I feel like this bill is rather useless. First, Clear is not present at all airports. Sometimes it's not even available at all terminals of the same airport (see JFK terminal 7 2 years ago) https://www.clearme.com/where-to-use-clear https://www.clearme.com/where-to-use-clear Secondly, Clear lines clear (heh) much slower than the TSA-pre lines. EWR is a great example of this. Lastly, TSA-Pre is going to eat Clear's lunch with their new programs: https://www.tsa.gov/news/press/releases/2024/03/06/tsa-and-dhs-st-prototype-self-service-screening-system-harry-reid https://www.tsa.gov/news/press/releases/2024/03/06/tsa-and-d... https://www.afar.com/magazine/tsa-precheck-is-introducing-self-service-carry-on-screenings https://www.afar.com/magazine/tsa-precheck-is-introducing-se...

xenospn 2y ago
Global entry kiosks clear me to enter the country in 3 seconds. No reason going through security should take any longer.
- Scoundreller 2y ago
  I’m even miffed about global entry being a separate program you have to sign up for. Should just be an automatic thing after you’ve made X entries without any issues. As if the gov isn’t already assigning risk scores to people and pre-evaluating who is high or low risk.
- pknomad 2y ago
  You have to consider the fact that most airports were built pre-9/11. The architectural constraints of the airport means long lines are unavoidable if you need to scan people and carry-on luggages for things like metal and sharp objects. Global entry only deals with international passengers which represents fraction of all passengers traveling in the US (which is what the front security deals with). It also doesn't help that the security have to deal with passengers who don't follow the rules: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/new-england-patriots-jack-jones-arrest-loaded-guns-boston-logan-airport-carry-on-luggage https://www.cbsnews.com/news/new-england-patriots-jack-jones...
  - Scoundreller 2y ago
    To be fair, airports were already screening for that pre-9/11. The tech has gotten a lot better which… should make things faster and easier to pinpoint and locate problematic objects instead of doing random checks? I think long lines are mainly due to growth of travel and aviation (more planes, bigger planes, and jamming more people in the same plane) without corresponding growth in airport security infra. If there were lineups at the shops in the airport, they’d build new and bigger shops in no time.

xenospn 2y ago

Global entry kiosks clear me to enter the country in 3 seconds. No reason going through security should take any longer.

Scoundreller 2y ago
I’m even miffed about global entry being a separate program you have to sign up for. Should just be an automatic thing after you’ve made X entries without any issues. As if the gov isn’t already assigning risk scores to people and pre-evaluating who is high or low risk.
pknomad 2y ago
You have to consider the fact that most airports were built pre-9/11. The architectural constraints of the airport means long lines are unavoidable if you need to scan people and carry-on luggages for things like metal and sharp objects. Global entry only deals with international passengers which represents fraction of all passengers traveling in the US (which is what the front security deals with). It also doesn't help that the security have to deal with passengers who don't follow the rules: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/new-england-patriots-jack-jones-arrest-loaded-guns-boston-logan-airport-carry-on-luggage https://www.cbsnews.com/news/new-england-patriots-jack-jones...
- Scoundreller 2y ago
  To be fair, airports were already screening for that pre-9/11. The tech has gotten a lot better which… should make things faster and easier to pinpoint and locate problematic objects instead of doing random checks? I think long lines are mainly due to growth of travel and aviation (more planes, bigger planes, and jamming more people in the same plane) without corresponding growth in airport security infra. If there were lineups at the shops in the airport, they’d build new and bigger shops in no time.