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I want to force kitchen staff to wear this and have it remind them to change gloves based on what they’ve touched either being a potential allergen or contamina

I want to force kitchen staff to wear this and have it remind them to change gloves based on what they’ve touched either being a potential allergen or contaminant. Makes me cringe when I see people who work with food also working the register, for instance. Too easy to get lazy and not change the gloves.

fooker 2y ago
Sounds dystopian. Would you want to be forced to wear a heavy headset that nagged you to comment your code and write unit tests?
- viscanti 2y ago
  If it means that I get to work with well commented and tested code, that might be worth it.
  - fooker 2y ago
    It's an interesting philosophical dilemma. What else would you be willing to force on everyone to improve (in your opinion) your circumstances? We clearly do this a bit (taxes, vaccines, etc), but finding the threshold is very tricky, and can lead to pretty authoritarian environments.
    - hhshhhhjjjd 2y ago
      Well, as someone living in the United States, I live with the saddening understanding that our military spending indicates that we're willing to immiserate large swaths of the world's population for increasingly diminishing returns. It's authoritarian enough that I have no choice but to support our military decisions through the taxes I pay.
      - fooker 2y ago
        It's colonialism without the responsibility of administering large populations. I don't know if there's a solution though, there are other sharks vying to do far worse.
    - twodave 2y ago
      We’ve already agreed to certain food standards. The fact that people don’t follow them is enough for me to say we need something more strict. Is it a headset? Maybe not. But periodic training and availability of PPE aren’t doing the job either. The shortage of labor at the low end of the market doesn’t help, either. What I’d rather have than a germophobic headset is for people to take pride in their work (whether you serve food or write code), but that also seems to be a lost cause. I’m lucky if I can get a restaurant to count the number of items in the bag before handing it to the delivery driver.
- GrinningFool 2y ago
  If it meant that my code wouldn't make other people sick...
- twodave 2y ago
  Who says it has to be heavy? While I’m wishing I’ll wish for it to weigh the same as a regular pair of glasses…
0x457 2y ago
> Makes me cringe when I see people who work with food also working the register, for instance. Too easy to get lazy and not change the gloves. Where did you see that? I've seen people not change gloves before touching the register, but definitely change gloves after. Seems a horrible use case.
EasyMark 2y ago
this seems like micromanagement taken to the next level and I hope if any such thing becomes "normal" that legislation will stop it. We aren't robots meant to react to green and red spots on an AR headset.
supportengineer 2y ago
This joke gets made a lot, but I really don't want to live on this planet any more. I've spent a lifetime in software and what I want more than anything is to shut it all off.
- vundercind 2y ago
  Around 2000-2005 I was in the “plug my brain into the Internet!” crowd. Now if you gave me a magic button that could permanently un-invent the whole thing… I really might press it.
elsonrodriguez 2y ago
You might want to read Manna. https://marshallbrain.com/manna1 https://marshallbrain.com/manna1

fooker 2y ago

Sounds dystopian. Would you want to be forced to wear a heavy headset that nagged you to comment your code and write unit tests?

viscanti 2y ago
If it means that I get to work with well commented and tested code, that might be worth it.
- fooker 2y ago
  It's an interesting philosophical dilemma. What else would you be willing to force on everyone to improve (in your opinion) your circumstances? We clearly do this a bit (taxes, vaccines, etc), but finding the threshold is very tricky, and can lead to pretty authoritarian environments.
  - hhshhhhjjjd 2y ago
    Well, as someone living in the United States, I live with the saddening understanding that our military spending indicates that we're willing to immiserate large swaths of the world's population for increasingly diminishing returns. It's authoritarian enough that I have no choice but to support our military decisions through the taxes I pay.
    - fooker 2y ago
      It's colonialism without the responsibility of administering large populations. I don't know if there's a solution though, there are other sharks vying to do far worse.
  - twodave 2y ago
    We’ve already agreed to certain food standards. The fact that people don’t follow them is enough for me to say we need something more strict. Is it a headset? Maybe not. But periodic training and availability of PPE aren’t doing the job either. The shortage of labor at the low end of the market doesn’t help, either. What I’d rather have than a germophobic headset is for people to take pride in their work (whether you serve food or write code), but that also seems to be a lost cause. I’m lucky if I can get a restaurant to count the number of items in the bag before handing it to the delivery driver.
GrinningFool 2y ago
If it meant that my code wouldn't make other people sick...
twodave 2y ago
Who says it has to be heavy? While I’m wishing I’ll wish for it to weigh the same as a regular pair of glasses…

0x457 2y ago

> Makes me cringe when I see people who work with food also working the register, for instance. Too easy to get lazy and not change the gloves. Where did you see that? I've seen people not change gloves before touching the register, but definitely change gloves after. Seems a horrible use case.

EasyMark 2y ago

this seems like micromanagement taken to the next level and I hope if any such thing becomes "normal" that legislation will stop it. We aren't robots meant to react to green and red spots on an AR headset.

supportengineer 2y ago

This joke gets made a lot, but I really don't want to live on this planet any more. I've spent a lifetime in software and what I want more than anything is to shut it all off.

vundercind 2y ago
Around 2000-2005 I was in the “plug my brain into the Internet!” crowd. Now if you gave me a magic button that could permanently un-invent the whole thing… I really might press it.

elsonrodriguez 2y ago

You might want to read Manna. https://marshallbrain.com/manna1 https://marshallbrain.com/manna1