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Then comes one after another manager, PO, PM, designer. They want: privacy consent dialog, social media integration, newsletter and subscription prompt dialog,

Then comes one after another manager, PO, PM, designer. They want: privacy consent dialog, social media integration, newsletter and subscription prompt dialog, put all photos into a clickable gallery, floating auto playing video, and AI chat somewhere right there in the corner.

mm007emko 3y ago
Which is very sad, if you think about it. None of that benefits me as a user, it's for their benefit.
- lifestyleguru 3y ago
  You're not helpful at all, and not a team player.
- nonrandomstring 3y ago
  Mature and professional developers would care what you thought, as a user.
- blindgeek 3y ago
  Someone brought up the topic of JS and screenreaders upthread. Screenreaders can work fine with JS. The pain points are: 1. Use of JS to reimplement standard HTML widgets. This has broken my screenreader more times than I care to remember. 2. All of this user-irrelevant garbage, like the dialogs, the social media buttons, and so forth. I remember a few years back trying to pay my electric bill. Yes, I was using a JS-capable browser. I couldn't actually pay my bill, but there were plenty of "follow us on Facebook" and similar. Like seriously, folks, I just wanna send you money. Really, this should even be something I could do without JS. Another example: we do online shopping at https://www.fredmeyer.com https://www.fredmeyer.com. Their website is absolutely terrible, with all of the busyness, some of it user hostile. Seriously folks, I just want to give you money for product, not follow you on facebook. Some sites get it really, really right. I play chess on lichess.org. That site requires JavaScript. And I don't see any way that it could possibly be avoided. But it works beautifully with my screenreader. It's snappy too, even under Firefox on a Raspberry Pi. I used to be a hard core "screw JS" guy. I've softened my stance, because I know it can be used correctly and to great effect.
bradley13 3y ago
privacy consent dialog Just this little reminder: you do not need a privacy consent dialog, if you don't abuse private data. No external trackers or 3rd party cookies? No data sales to third parties? No shady tactics of your own? You can skip the dialog.
- lifestyleguru 3y ago
  Now you only have to convince sales and marketing who funnel all analytics to Google and Meta. They also like dashboards embeddable into PowerPoint.
- victorbjorklund 3y ago
  Internal tracks count too. You cant track the users just because you just an internal tracker. It is about any tracking. Not external tracking.

mm007emko 3y ago

Which is very sad, if you think about it. None of that benefits me as a user, it's for their benefit.

lifestyleguru 3y ago
You're not helpful at all, and not a team player.
nonrandomstring 3y ago
Mature and professional developers would care what you thought, as a user.
blindgeek 3y ago
Someone brought up the topic of JS and screenreaders upthread. Screenreaders can work fine with JS. The pain points are: 1. Use of JS to reimplement standard HTML widgets. This has broken my screenreader more times than I care to remember. 2. All of this user-irrelevant garbage, like the dialogs, the social media buttons, and so forth. I remember a few years back trying to pay my electric bill. Yes, I was using a JS-capable browser. I couldn't actually pay my bill, but there were plenty of "follow us on Facebook" and similar. Like seriously, folks, I just wanna send you money. Really, this should even be something I could do without JS. Another example: we do online shopping at https://www.fredmeyer.com https://www.fredmeyer.com. Their website is absolutely terrible, with all of the busyness, some of it user hostile. Seriously folks, I just want to give you money for product, not follow you on facebook. Some sites get it really, really right. I play chess on lichess.org. That site requires JavaScript. And I don't see any way that it could possibly be avoided. But it works beautifully with my screenreader. It's snappy too, even under Firefox on a Raspberry Pi. I used to be a hard core "screw JS" guy. I've softened my stance, because I know it can be used correctly and to great effect.

bradley13 3y ago

privacy consent dialog Just this little reminder: you do not need a privacy consent dialog, if you don't abuse private data. No external trackers or 3rd party cookies? No data sales to third parties? No shady tactics of your own? You can skip the dialog.

lifestyleguru 3y ago
Now you only have to convince sales and marketing who funnel all analytics to Google and Meta. They also like dashboards embeddable into PowerPoint.
victorbjorklund 3y ago
Internal tracks count too. You cant track the users just because you just an internal tracker. It is about any tracking. Not external tracking.