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There's this feature they have now on Instagram where you can chat with different AI personas. It's really terrible. Do people actually use this? It's like tryi

There's this feature they have now on Instagram where you can chat with different AI personas. It's really terrible. Do people actually use this? It's like trying to form a personal connection with clippy

rootusrootus 3y ago
Is that anything like character.ai? If I allowed it, my daughter (13 years old) would spend half her day talking to those bots, she's always asking. Doesn't appeal to me, but to each their own I guess.
- tnmom 3y ago
  Genuine question - why do you allow _any_ time? I don’t have kids, so I’m able to make these large generalizing statements: seems like personal connections to AI chatbots are a form of brain rot.
  - threeseed 3y ago
    There are plenty of positives for kids with AI bots. Children often have questions that they are not comfortable talking to their parents about. And their peers can often be more clueless than they are. Or maybe they just want to understand the world they live in with something that is more fun and engaging than reading Wikipedia. What's harming children right now aren't services like this. It's the peer pressure and unreal expectations being set by social media.
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    - Avshalom 3y ago
      >What's harming children right now aren't services like this. kinda really fucking depends on what "services like this" are telling them. Remember when the national eating disorder hotline replaced it's humans with chat bots that started telling people to just eat less?
      - Avshalom 3y ago
        NYC recently made a chat bot to answer legal questions for small businesses and it gave tremendously wrong information, likely harming both the employees and the business.
        renegade-otter 3y ago
        It would gladly tell you it's OK to serve human meat in a restaurant.
  - klyrs 3y ago
    As a parent, I'm with you. But parenthood sucks. From day one, that person you're "responsible for" is actually a separate entity with its own thoughts and bodily autonomy. And here they are, growing up with this technology, entirely unlike anything available to us in our childhoods. But one thing remains the same: if we shut them out altogether, they'll route around us and find it on their own. A teetotaler myself, but the "not one drop" mentality doesn't really make a ton of sense to me. Not because I want my kid using AI or alcohol, but I'd rather him try it under my watch than go out and find it on his own. But if this is a feature that parental controls cannot limit, then I honestly don't know what to say other than, perhaps we're fucked as a society.
    - seanmcdirmid 3y ago
      Ya, the other thing is that we need to gradually give them freedom and have them make some recoverable mistakes under our watch, or they could go straight from sheltered kid to adult in the world on their own. By 16, they should have 75% of the freedom of an adult, because they’ll have 100% at 18.
- kristopolous 3y ago
  I think I get it. It's relationship practice. An HN equivalent would be like a fake FAANG interview or a fake kleiner perkins AI you can pitch over and over again. People would probably pay good money for that. Sell it to bootcamps
  - klyrs 3y ago
    Yeah, you've got the right idea. Kinda like practicing making out with your hand... only instead of your hand, it's a drug dealer.
Zenzero 3y ago
I imagine the steps to get here were: 1) You're an ambitious meta employee trying to get promoted 2) You know leadership is hyped about AI 3) All of the low hanging fruit is gone
- threeseed 3y ago
  The level of resources to deliver a feature like this is staggering. There is no reality in which Musk and the SLT are not personally aware of this. And these features are all just about getting regular feedback to improve the model for future use cases.
  - StableAlkyne 3y ago
    > The level of resources to deliver a feature like this is staggering. Are they, though? AzureML will straight up let you spin up a chatbot in a few clicks, and you could just have the ops team set up auto scaling so you only consume resources you need (because really, how many people are actually going to use this?). It could be expensive if you find tune, but a free POC would just be a to prompt an LLM to act like a celebrity, maybe with an example of text they wrote. So at worst, you're paying for compute that is a drop in the bucket to someone like Meta
  - brg 3y ago
    I think this being based on Llama makes it tenable. GPT4 and Gemini are monolithic multipod models. Multiple instances of Llama run per machines.
  - Zenzero 3y ago
    How is it staggering? Meta probably threw together llama with a few hundred react components and then shipped it.
JKCalhoun 3y ago
I do believe that GossipGPT will be huge.
nothrowaways 3y ago
Do people actually want this?

rootusrootus 3y ago

Is that anything like character.ai? If I allowed it, my daughter (13 years old) would spend half her day talking to those bots, she's always asking. Doesn't appeal to me, but to each their own I guess.

tnmom 3y ago
Genuine question - why do you allow _any_ time? I don’t have kids, so I’m able to make these large generalizing statements: seems like personal connections to AI chatbots are a form of brain rot.
- threeseed 3y ago
  There are plenty of positives for kids with AI bots. Children often have questions that they are not comfortable talking to their parents about. And their peers can often be more clueless than they are. Or maybe they just want to understand the world they live in with something that is more fun and engaging than reading Wikipedia. What's harming children right now aren't services like this. It's the peer pressure and unreal expectations being set by social media.
  - deleted 3y ago
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  - Avshalom 3y ago
    >What's harming children right now aren't services like this. kinda really fucking depends on what "services like this" are telling them. Remember when the national eating disorder hotline replaced it's humans with chat bots that started telling people to just eat less?
    - Avshalom 3y ago
      NYC recently made a chat bot to answer legal questions for small businesses and it gave tremendously wrong information, likely harming both the employees and the business.
      - renegade-otter 3y ago
        It would gladly tell you it's OK to serve human meat in a restaurant.
- klyrs 3y ago
  As a parent, I'm with you. But parenthood sucks. From day one, that person you're "responsible for" is actually a separate entity with its own thoughts and bodily autonomy. And here they are, growing up with this technology, entirely unlike anything available to us in our childhoods. But one thing remains the same: if we shut them out altogether, they'll route around us and find it on their own. A teetotaler myself, but the "not one drop" mentality doesn't really make a ton of sense to me. Not because I want my kid using AI or alcohol, but I'd rather him try it under my watch than go out and find it on his own. But if this is a feature that parental controls cannot limit, then I honestly don't know what to say other than, perhaps we're fucked as a society.
  - seanmcdirmid 3y ago
    Ya, the other thing is that we need to gradually give them freedom and have them make some recoverable mistakes under our watch, or they could go straight from sheltered kid to adult in the world on their own. By 16, they should have 75% of the freedom of an adult, because they’ll have 100% at 18.
kristopolous 3y ago
I think I get it. It's relationship practice. An HN equivalent would be like a fake FAANG interview or a fake kleiner perkins AI you can pitch over and over again. People would probably pay good money for that. Sell it to bootcamps
- klyrs 3y ago
  Yeah, you've got the right idea. Kinda like practicing making out with your hand... only instead of your hand, it's a drug dealer.

Zenzero 3y ago

I imagine the steps to get here were: 1) You're an ambitious meta employee trying to get promoted 2) You know leadership is hyped about AI 3) All of the low hanging fruit is gone

threeseed 3y ago
The level of resources to deliver a feature like this is staggering. There is no reality in which Musk and the SLT are not personally aware of this. And these features are all just about getting regular feedback to improve the model for future use cases.
- StableAlkyne 3y ago
  > The level of resources to deliver a feature like this is staggering. Are they, though? AzureML will straight up let you spin up a chatbot in a few clicks, and you could just have the ops team set up auto scaling so you only consume resources you need (because really, how many people are actually going to use this?). It could be expensive if you find tune, but a free POC would just be a to prompt an LLM to act like a celebrity, maybe with an example of text they wrote. So at worst, you're paying for compute that is a drop in the bucket to someone like Meta
- brg 3y ago
  I think this being based on Llama makes it tenable. GPT4 and Gemini are monolithic multipod models. Multiple instances of Llama run per machines.
- Zenzero 3y ago
  How is it staggering? Meta probably threw together llama with a few hundred react components and then shipped it.

JKCalhoun 3y ago

I do believe that GossipGPT will be huge.

nothrowaways 3y ago

Do people actually want this?