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It's interesting how many people use the word consciousness for the ability to think thoughts or imagine stuff. In eastern philosophy, consciousness is all tha

It's interesting how many people use the word consciousness for the ability to think thoughts or imagine stuff. In eastern philosophy, consciousness is all that which is not material nature, that is unchanging, exactly the same in every living being and is separate from mind, intelligence and senses which are considered a part of material nature.

AnnoyedComment 3y ago
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bongodongobob 3y ago
Damn you're worldy af. So interesting that you think that's interesting. Is it difficult to be you what with all your worldly ideas? We're way down here using accepted terminology generally agreed upon by 99% of the public but you're on a whole different level.
- Arch-TK 3y ago
  Consciousness is probably the most vague term in the west. At least in eastern philosophy they made an attempt at nailing it down. Just because a lot of people use a word a lot, doesn't mean the word is well defined.
chahex 3y ago
I believe that unchanged thing is awareness which in Yoga Sutra is called “pure consciousness” which is both the observer and the background of any changing senses. The pure awareness is the source of the feeling of “I AM” and the sutra began by saying this I AM likes to identify whatever it creates as itself. Experiences are outside material world. There is nothing you can call “pain”, but only evidence of it, be it physiological or physical or metabolical or neurological. Yet first and foremost, the entire world is based on senses isn’t it? The only thing any experiencer can prove without any “evidence” is that he is. The existence of experience is self lroving. Beyond that how can anyone prove that there is actually a world beyond mind? The world is a model in one’s consciousness. It is constructed with consciousness and is therefore full of consciousness. How can anyone assume things beings or animals without consciousness exists? Objectivity?
- NayamAmarshe 3y ago
  I love Sāṁkhya philosophy, how it tries to objectively and logically come to the conclusion of the presence of prakṛti (nature, observation) and puruṣa (observer). And you're quite right. Patanjali in the Yoga Sūtras says that the seer abides in its own nature, that is what pure consciousness is. The consciousness being conscious of its own consciousness. The only way to know that is to have citta-vṛtti-nirodhaḥ or the absolute stilling of the mind by shutting down all senses. It's definitely very difficult to wrap my head around it, but it's still fascinating that if one follows the Yoga method properly, there might be a possibility of having that pure-consciousness experience.
  - chahex 3y ago
    Hi thank you for your reply. In his conversations I AM THAT Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj teaches to focus on the sense of I AM , as I AM is the true self and pure awareness is the transistor of every bit of consciousness and therefore it is in every moment of conscious life… yet it is true the sense of stillness is a godlike presence and the mind likes to be distracted by the content of senses and not focused on the knower. To have that absolute stillness with us all the time is Guru’s grace. But I AM THAT is also on YouTube, I really like the audio book.
rand0mx1 3y ago
At least read some book before mixing two different terms. There is difference between 'consciousness' and 'chit'.
- NayamAmarshe 3y ago
  'cit' is the term used for consciousness in eastern philosophy. There is no other word. cit is definitely consciousness, citta is not, it's a part of prakṛti. What you're probably referring to is citta. There's a difference between citta and pure consciousness.

AnnoyedComment 3y ago

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bongodongobob 3y ago

Damn you're worldy af. So interesting that you think that's interesting. Is it difficult to be you what with all your worldly ideas? We're way down here using accepted terminology generally agreed upon by 99% of the public but you're on a whole different level.

Arch-TK 3y ago
Consciousness is probably the most vague term in the west. At least in eastern philosophy they made an attempt at nailing it down. Just because a lot of people use a word a lot, doesn't mean the word is well defined.

chahex 3y ago

I believe that unchanged thing is awareness which in Yoga Sutra is called “pure consciousness” which is both the observer and the background of any changing senses. The pure awareness is the source of the feeling of “I AM” and the sutra began by saying this I AM likes to identify whatever it creates as itself. Experiences are outside material world. There is nothing you can call “pain”, but only evidence of it, be it physiological or physical or metabolical or neurological. Yet first and foremost, the entire world is based on senses isn’t it? The only thing any experiencer can prove without any “evidence” is that he is. The existence of experience is self lroving. Beyond that how can anyone prove that there is actually a world beyond mind? The world is a model in one’s consciousness. It is constructed with consciousness and is therefore full of consciousness. How can anyone assume things beings or animals without consciousness exists? Objectivity?

NayamAmarshe 3y ago
I love Sāṁkhya philosophy, how it tries to objectively and logically come to the conclusion of the presence of prakṛti (nature, observation) and puruṣa (observer). And you're quite right. Patanjali in the Yoga Sūtras says that the seer abides in its own nature, that is what pure consciousness is. The consciousness being conscious of its own consciousness. The only way to know that is to have citta-vṛtti-nirodhaḥ or the absolute stilling of the mind by shutting down all senses. It's definitely very difficult to wrap my head around it, but it's still fascinating that if one follows the Yoga method properly, there might be a possibility of having that pure-consciousness experience.
- chahex 3y ago
  Hi thank you for your reply. In his conversations I AM THAT Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj teaches to focus on the sense of I AM , as I AM is the true self and pure awareness is the transistor of every bit of consciousness and therefore it is in every moment of conscious life… yet it is true the sense of stillness is a godlike presence and the mind likes to be distracted by the content of senses and not focused on the knower. To have that absolute stillness with us all the time is Guru’s grace. But I AM THAT is also on YouTube, I really like the audio book.

rand0mx1 3y ago

At least read some book before mixing two different terms. There is difference between 'consciousness' and 'chit'.

NayamAmarshe 3y ago
'cit' is the term used for consciousness in eastern philosophy. There is no other word. cit is definitely consciousness, citta is not, it's a part of prakṛti. What you're probably referring to is citta. There's a difference between citta and pure consciousness.