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In a way I'm kind of glad of the recent acceleration in Windows's enshittification, because it's now got me to the point where my Steam library is the only thin

In a way I'm kind of glad of the recent acceleration in Windows's enshittification, because it's now got me to the point where my Steam library is the only thing I haven't yet migrated to NixOS!

tokai 3y ago
Recent? Hasn't it been going strong for well over ten years? Windows 8 was released in 2012.
- Smaug123 3y ago
  It's been feeling much faster recently with the AI and Edge and so on. Maybe I'm just getting grumpier as I age.
  - marcosdumay 3y ago
    Nah, it's been on and off for decades (since the last days of XP). We are currently in an accelerating phase. I have no idea why MS oscillates between velocities here. It doesn't seem to impact their profitability or popularity.
  - adastra22 3y ago
    Edge switching to be chromium based and free access to OpenAI’s best models is hardly emshitification imho.
    - Smaug123 3y ago
      You're quite free to stay on Windows - I'm sure someone likes all these new features! I just strongly prefer an OS which doesn't have them.
- Gud 3y ago
  Since Windows XP. Windows 2000 was the last truly great version of Windows NT, it's only been going downhill from there.
  - out_of_protocol 3y ago
    Nah, Windows 7 was (and still is) great, truly good work to fix vista mistakes. Downhill ride started with windows 8
    - thfuran 3y ago
      Windows 7 was peak windows, past the mess of driver signing in vista, before they started screwing up the start menu search and turning the whole os into an ad platform.
      - olyjohn 3y ago
        I can't think of what Windows 7 did that was better than 2000. I'd be curious to hear what people liked about it?
        thfuran 3y ago
        Better search in the start menu, for one. It didn't really matter at the time, but a lack of 64 bit support would suck for current use.
        Gud 3y ago
        Search in the start menu has absolutely been making windows worse, not better. If I recall correctly, it did work well in Windows 7, but since internet search and more crap has been bolted on, and combined with other anti-features, has made the windows start menu frustrating to use.
        thfuran 3y ago
        Yes, it's crap now. But it worked well in windows 7.
        o11c 3y ago
        Windows 7 was the first version that finally implemented 1970s-style user-based security successfully. XP was useless if you weren't an administrator, and Vista broke too many things too often.
talldayo 3y ago
Games work pretty good on NixOS right now, just FYI (if you have good GPU drivers, that is). I've gotten pretty much everything working that I was able to get running on other distros. The biggest issue is native Linux titles, but most of those work fine with Steam Linux Runtime selected. Just sayin'. If you're not a chronic Destiny 2 or R6 Siege player, hop on in, the water's fine!
- smallmancontrov 3y ago
  How's HDR support these days? I'm super excited that it's getting close, but I really like my colors vibrant, my water sparkly, and my metal surfaces shiny -- so much so that I'll reboot into Windows if I have to. Is HDR in the "can work with a modest amount of off-roading" phase on linux yet?
  - talldayo 3y ago
    The pipeline should be working for some games that run in fullscreen, if your monitor's supported. Valve hauled ass getting it out the door in time for Steam Deck OLED. That being said, there's caveats. You need a well-supported GPU, a super recent desktop, and a monitor that talks the right language. I don't daily-drive any HDR monitors myself so I can't say for certain where it's at now, but a lot of people are confident of improvements this year: https://www.phoronix.com/news/KDE-HDR-End-Of-2023 https://www.phoronix.com/news/KDE-HDR-End-Of-2023 Also see: Gamescope, Valve's compositor software that can force HDR in some apps: https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Gamescope#HDR_support https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Gamescope#HDR_support

In a way I'm kind of glad of the recent acceleration in Windows's enshittification, because it's now got me to the point where my Steam library is the only thing I haven't yet migrated to NixOS!

tokai 3y ago

Recent? Hasn't it been going strong for well over ten years? Windows 8 was released in 2012.

Smaug123 3y ago
It's been feeling much faster recently with the AI and Edge and so on. Maybe I'm just getting grumpier as I age.
- marcosdumay 3y ago
  Nah, it's been on and off for decades (since the last days of XP). We are currently in an accelerating phase. I have no idea why MS oscillates between velocities here. It doesn't seem to impact their profitability or popularity.
- adastra22 3y ago
  Edge switching to be chromium based and free access to OpenAI’s best models is hardly emshitification imho.
  - Smaug123 3y ago
    You're quite free to stay on Windows - I'm sure someone likes all these new features! I just strongly prefer an OS which doesn't have them.
Gud 3y ago
Since Windows XP. Windows 2000 was the last truly great version of Windows NT, it's only been going downhill from there.
- out_of_protocol 3y ago
  Nah, Windows 7 was (and still is) great, truly good work to fix vista mistakes. Downhill ride started with windows 8
  - thfuran 3y ago
    Windows 7 was peak windows, past the mess of driver signing in vista, before they started screwing up the start menu search and turning the whole os into an ad platform.
    - olyjohn 3y ago
      I can't think of what Windows 7 did that was better than 2000. I'd be curious to hear what people liked about it?
      - thfuran 3y ago
        Better search in the start menu, for one. It didn't really matter at the time, but a lack of 64 bit support would suck for current use.
        Gud 3y ago
        Search in the start menu has absolutely been making windows worse, not better. If I recall correctly, it did work well in Windows 7, but since internet search and more crap has been bolted on, and combined with other anti-features, has made the windows start menu frustrating to use.
        thfuran 3y ago
        Yes, it's crap now. But it worked well in windows 7.
      - o11c 3y ago
        Windows 7 was the first version that finally implemented 1970s-style user-based security successfully. XP was useless if you weren't an administrator, and Vista broke too many things too often.

talldayo 3y ago

Games work pretty good on NixOS right now, just FYI (if you have good GPU drivers, that is). I've gotten pretty much everything working that I was able to get running on other distros. The biggest issue is native Linux titles, but most of those work fine with Steam Linux Runtime selected. Just sayin'. If you're not a chronic Destiny 2 or R6 Siege player, hop on in, the water's fine!

smallmancontrov 3y ago
How's HDR support these days? I'm super excited that it's getting close, but I really like my colors vibrant, my water sparkly, and my metal surfaces shiny -- so much so that I'll reboot into Windows if I have to. Is HDR in the "can work with a modest amount of off-roading" phase on linux yet?
- talldayo 3y ago
  The pipeline should be working for some games that run in fullscreen, if your monitor's supported. Valve hauled ass getting it out the door in time for Steam Deck OLED. That being said, there's caveats. You need a well-supported GPU, a super recent desktop, and a monitor that talks the right language. I don't daily-drive any HDR monitors myself so I can't say for certain where it's at now, but a lot of people are confident of improvements this year: https://www.phoronix.com/news/KDE-HDR-End-Of-2023 https://www.phoronix.com/news/KDE-HDR-End-Of-2023 Also see: Gamescope, Valve's compositor software that can force HDR in some apps: https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Gamescope#HDR_support https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Gamescope#HDR_support