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"You also don't do anything illegal in your mail and email, so the government can also read those, right? And you never speed so the government can get a black

"You also don't do anything illegal in your mail and email, so the government can also read those, right? And you never speed so the government can get a black box in your car, right? And you never download anything illegal so the government can monitor all activity on your PC, right? And you never do anything wrong against your company so your company can also monitor all your activity, right?" "Would you mind if all your online activity and chat histories were sent to ChatGPT live, with it deciding if you're a suspect or a criminal? If not, why are you okay with a vague system designed by politicians?" "If you or your partner is short and look young relative to the average Caucasian, for example due to being from certain Asian countries with low average height, would you trust that ChatGPT wouldn't erroneously classify pictures as being of a minor and mark you a criminal?" People tend to get sensitive when you expand the idea a bit and give them an example of the technical part that they can relate to.

klabb3 3y ago
> "You also don't do anything illegal in your mail and email, so the government can also read those, right? And you never speed so the government can get a black box in your car, right? And you never download anything illegal so the government can monitor all activity on your PC, right? And you never do anything wrong against your company so your company can also monitor all your activity, right?" I know a lot of people who would just go “yes?”. The same people would freak out if there was a camera in their Airbnb. Or if they thought two steps ahead and realized their sexy photos or pictures of their kids would be viewed by some 20 year old moderator-reviewer type. Or would want to make revenge porn criminal, or even deepfake porn. Let alone any type of concern for journalists and their sources. People for some reason don’t think these laws apply to them, that they would just be ignored by any snooping eyes because of course they look only for real criminals like terrorists and pedos. These proposals should ideally cause the same type of worry as being stopped by a cop even if you didn’t do anything wrong.
- arghwhat 3y ago
  The second and third line of arguing, underlining the technical issue rather than privacy, might still work for those individuals. There will always be people you cannot convince however, either because they have different ideologies or being in a place in life where all arguments wear off and they have no reason to spare it another thought. We only need a majority in the voting group, not everyone.
fennecbutt 3y ago
The black box one would annoy many people he he, the general driving attitude I've seen is that more people speed than those who don't. And they feel entitled to speed. Hence why people hate speed cameras "they just trying to make money" Well don't speed then, and you won't have to give em money!

klabb3 3y ago

> "You also don't do anything illegal in your mail and email, so the government can also read those, right? And you never speed so the government can get a black box in your car, right? And you never download anything illegal so the government can monitor all activity on your PC, right? And you never do anything wrong against your company so your company can also monitor all your activity, right?" I know a lot of people who would just go “yes?”. The same people would freak out if there was a camera in their Airbnb. Or if they thought two steps ahead and realized their sexy photos or pictures of their kids would be viewed by some 20 year old moderator-reviewer type. Or would want to make revenge porn criminal, or even deepfake porn. Let alone any type of concern for journalists and their sources. People for some reason don’t think these laws apply to them, that they would just be ignored by any snooping eyes because of course they look only for real criminals like terrorists and pedos. These proposals should ideally cause the same type of worry as being stopped by a cop even if you didn’t do anything wrong.

arghwhat 3y ago
The second and third line of arguing, underlining the technical issue rather than privacy, might still work for those individuals. There will always be people you cannot convince however, either because they have different ideologies or being in a place in life where all arguments wear off and they have no reason to spare it another thought. We only need a majority in the voting group, not everyone.

fennecbutt 3y ago

The black box one would annoy many people he he, the general driving attitude I've seen is that more people speed than those who don't. And they feel entitled to speed. Hence why people hate speed cameras "they just trying to make money" Well don't speed then, and you won't have to give em money!