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Why not just stop using YouTube?

goalonetwo 2y ago
I would love to do that but unfortunately Network effect means that a lot of creators don't upload their video anywhere else. It is unfortunately becoming the default for everything. I paid for Vimeo and other services in the past. But I will not pay for Youtube/Google
- woofcat 2y ago
  So you want their free hosting, but don't want to pay for it either directly, or indirectly?
  - jstanley 2y ago
    Yes.
  - digging 2y ago
    For me, it's not the concept of paying. I'd gladly pay someone to host YouTube. I just don't think paying Google is a good thing.
  - zarzavat 2y ago
    Who asked for Google to be the custodian of our culture? I don’t owe them rent just because they were so presumptuous to put themselves into that position. There used to be a thriving variety of video hosting sites.
    - goalonetwo 2y ago
      That's exactly how I feel as well. I don't want them to be the default but here we are. And I'm definitely not going to pay which would encourage/send the signal that this is what we want.
  - goalonetwo 2y ago
    Yes. I'm fine with them dying and a better company taking over that I would then support.
  - mitthrowaway2 2y ago
    YouTube spent about ten years convincing their users that videos will be offered with only unobtrusive banner ads or short, pre-video ads. Then once the network effects were safely locked in, they changed it to a protection racket where multiple loud, frequently offensive ads (including for scams!) will interrupt a one-minute video and new ads are triggered by so much as rewinding, but you can pay to not see them. I'd much rather support a different platform, myself.
  - wintermutestwin 2y ago
    If they weren't already stealing my data, I'd gladly pay them for ad-free. My data is worth far more to me and goog won't even offer me an option to not steal it because it is worth far more to them as well.
homefree 2y ago
Or just pay for premium (it’s worth it)
zarzavat 2y ago
That’s the 21st century equivalent of becoming an ascetic monk.
jb1991 2y ago
That’s like asking a large segment of the population to stop using the Internet altogether. YouTube is basically a utility now, you can’t avoid it in many cases.

I would love to do that but unfortunately Network effect means that a lot of creators don't upload their video anywhere else. It is unfortunately becoming the default for everything. I paid for Vimeo and other services in the past. But I will not pay for Youtube/Google

woofcat 2y ago
So you want their free hosting, but don't want to pay for it either directly, or indirectly?
- jstanley 2y ago
  Yes.
- digging 2y ago
  For me, it's not the concept of paying. I'd gladly pay someone to host YouTube. I just don't think paying Google is a good thing.
- zarzavat 2y ago
  Who asked for Google to be the custodian of our culture? I don’t owe them rent just because they were so presumptuous to put themselves into that position. There used to be a thriving variety of video hosting sites.
  - goalonetwo 2y ago
    That's exactly how I feel as well. I don't want them to be the default but here we are. And I'm definitely not going to pay which would encourage/send the signal that this is what we want.
- goalonetwo 2y ago
  Yes. I'm fine with them dying and a better company taking over that I would then support.
- mitthrowaway2 2y ago
  YouTube spent about ten years convincing their users that videos will be offered with only unobtrusive banner ads or short, pre-video ads. Then once the network effects were safely locked in, they changed it to a protection racket where multiple loud, frequently offensive ads (including for scams!) will interrupt a one-minute video and new ads are triggered by so much as rewinding, but you can pay to not see them. I'd much rather support a different platform, myself.
- wintermutestwin 2y ago
  If they weren't already stealing my data, I'd gladly pay them for ad-free. My data is worth far more to me and goog won't even offer me an option to not steal it because it is worth far more to them as well.

homefree 2y ago

Or just pay for premium (it’s worth it)

zarzavat 2y ago

That’s the 21st century equivalent of becoming an ascetic monk.

jb1991 2y ago

That’s like asking a large segment of the population to stop using the Internet altogether. YouTube is basically a utility now, you can’t avoid it in many cases.