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If you use uBlock Origin, you can also just hide them: https://github.com/gijsdev/ublock-hide-yt-shorts https://github.com/gijsdev/ublock-hide-yt-shorts

fnordian_slip 2y ago
Thanks, I manually hide them every thirty days because I didn't know that ublock origin can do that, and I didn't want to install an extra add-on just for that (because I hoped that YouTube would some day realise how bad shorts are, and give up on them; wishful thinking, I know).
- victorstanciu 2y ago
  > I manually hide them every thirty days The inability of tech companies to accept that no means no, and not "bother me later" is a dark pattern that I've noticed more and more lately.
  - Freak_NL 2y ago
    It seems to have gotten imbedded as 'just the way you ask users things' in UI developer's mindsets: Do you want to enable push notifications? [Yes please] [Later] How about [No]? Just add a note that I can always enable this later if I want to, but don't jerk around with this nudging making me feel I'm just postponing this choice.
    - numpad0 2y ago
      It's called dark patterns as GP mentioned. They're financially motivated to improve [Yes] clicks, so they just remove [No]. It's completely Web-legal and Web-ethical. IMO, something should have been done when A/B tests became normal(mid to late 2000s). That ship had long long sailed, but I believe that alone require independent ethics board if it is happening outside the Web. It should not be something easily handled with a blanket waiver in shrinkwrap EULA.
  - brokenmachine 2y ago
    As Louis Rossmann would say, Rapist mentality.
- somat 2y ago
  I wrote a userscript that turns the links into a /v/ link. The whole "shorts" concept is sort of stupid. I mean the videos are fine, let people make whatever sort of video they want. the front page promotion is unwanted. But the thing I actively despise is the scrolling auto play interface. However youtube will play the video with a sane interface when the /short/ link is modified into /v/ Or I should say, I nearly wrote a userscript to do this, it mostly works but I still find myself manually changing urls. I am not good with JS.
  - efilife 2y ago
    A little nitpick, it's ?v= not /v/
    - Phiwise_ 2y ago
      I think both redirect to the video, no? At least I think they used to.
    - somat 2y ago
      shorts have a link like youtube.com/shorts/XXXXXXX changing that to youtube.com/v/XXXXXXX works. and the video is still stupid, but now you have a sane environment to watch it in.
      - efilife 2y ago
        I had no idea, thanks!
  - brokenmachine 2y ago
    My tampermonkey script (credit to the original author, I forget where I got it from): // ==UserScript== // @name Youtube shorts redirect // @namespace http://tampermonkey.net/ // @version 0.3 // @description Youtube shorts > watch redirect // @author // @match *://*.youtube.com/* // @icon https://www.google.com/s2/favicons?domain=youtube.com // @grant none // @run-at document-start // @license GNU GPLv2 // ==/UserScript== var oldHref = document.location.href; if (window.location.href.indexOf('youtube.com/shorts') > -1) { window.location.replace(window.location.toString().replace('/shorts/', '/watch?v=')); } window.onload = function() { var bodyList = document.querySelector("body") var observer = new MutationObserver(function(mutations) { mutations.forEach(function(mutation) { if (oldHref != document.location.href) { oldHref = document.location.href; console.log('location changed!'); if (window.location.href.indexOf('youtube.com/shorts') > -1) { window.location.replace(window.location.toString().replace('/shorts/', '/watch?v=')); } } }); }); var config = { childList: true, subtree: true }; observer.observe(bodyList, config); };
- Kiro 2y ago
  I think Shorts are great. What is your issue with them?
  - TonyTrapp 2y ago
    Besides the obvious reason that is even stated in the original submission of this article (they way they are presented is made to hack your brain for the dopamine kick and keep scrolling infinitely), there are also the technical aspects (no scrub bar, no volume control, accidentally touch the mouse wheel and you skip to the next video) - and maybe more subjectively: Shorts are about the worst-quality YouTube content there is.

fnordian_slip 2y ago

Thanks, I manually hide them every thirty days because I didn't know that ublock origin can do that, and I didn't want to install an extra add-on just for that (because I hoped that YouTube would some day realise how bad shorts are, and give up on them; wishful thinking, I know).

victorstanciu 2y ago
> I manually hide them every thirty days The inability of tech companies to accept that no means no, and not "bother me later" is a dark pattern that I've noticed more and more lately.
- Freak_NL 2y ago
  It seems to have gotten imbedded as 'just the way you ask users things' in UI developer's mindsets: Do you want to enable push notifications? [Yes please] [Later] How about [No]? Just add a note that I can always enable this later if I want to, but don't jerk around with this nudging making me feel I'm just postponing this choice.
  - numpad0 2y ago
    It's called dark patterns as GP mentioned. They're financially motivated to improve [Yes] clicks, so they just remove [No]. It's completely Web-legal and Web-ethical. IMO, something should have been done when A/B tests became normal(mid to late 2000s). That ship had long long sailed, but I believe that alone require independent ethics board if it is happening outside the Web. It should not be something easily handled with a blanket waiver in shrinkwrap EULA.
- brokenmachine 2y ago
  As Louis Rossmann would say, Rapist mentality.
somat 2y ago
I wrote a userscript that turns the links into a /v/ link. The whole "shorts" concept is sort of stupid. I mean the videos are fine, let people make whatever sort of video they want. the front page promotion is unwanted. But the thing I actively despise is the scrolling auto play interface. However youtube will play the video with a sane interface when the /short/ link is modified into /v/ Or I should say, I nearly wrote a userscript to do this, it mostly works but I still find myself manually changing urls. I am not good with JS.
- efilife 2y ago
  A little nitpick, it's ?v= not /v/
  - Phiwise_ 2y ago
    I think both redirect to the video, no? At least I think they used to.
  - somat 2y ago
    shorts have a link like youtube.com/shorts/XXXXXXX changing that to youtube.com/v/XXXXXXX works. and the video is still stupid, but now you have a sane environment to watch it in.
    - efilife 2y ago
      I had no idea, thanks!
- brokenmachine 2y ago
  My tampermonkey script (credit to the original author, I forget where I got it from): // ==UserScript== // @name Youtube shorts redirect // @namespace http://tampermonkey.net/ // @version 0.3 // @description Youtube shorts > watch redirect // @author // @match *://*.youtube.com/* // @icon https://www.google.com/s2/favicons?domain=youtube.com // @grant none // @run-at document-start // @license GNU GPLv2 // ==/UserScript== var oldHref = document.location.href; if (window.location.href.indexOf('youtube.com/shorts') > -1) { window.location.replace(window.location.toString().replace('/shorts/', '/watch?v=')); } window.onload = function() { var bodyList = document.querySelector("body") var observer = new MutationObserver(function(mutations) { mutations.forEach(function(mutation) { if (oldHref != document.location.href) { oldHref = document.location.href; console.log('location changed!'); if (window.location.href.indexOf('youtube.com/shorts') > -1) { window.location.replace(window.location.toString().replace('/shorts/', '/watch?v=')); } } }); }); var config = { childList: true, subtree: true }; observer.observe(bodyList, config); };
Kiro 2y ago
I think Shorts are great. What is your issue with them?
- TonyTrapp 2y ago
  Besides the obvious reason that is even stated in the original submission of this article (they way they are presented is made to hack your brain for the dopamine kick and keep scrolling infinitely), there are also the technical aspects (no scrub bar, no volume control, accidentally touch the mouse wheel and you skip to the next video) - and maybe more subjectively: Shorts are about the worst-quality YouTube content there is.