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My battle with Tesla: I want to clear my name before I die
- pjerem 2y ago> Tesla has never provided any details about the alleged incident, either to her or in public, she says. Well, unfortunately it looks like a classical case of "someone with some power in the company didn’t like you".
- jajko 2y agoMove fast and break things... not the brightest idea with heavily regulated markets when we talk about 1st world countries human lives. But I'll probably die of old age than witness that massive childish ego admit a fuckup in any possible way. Till then, voting with my wallet and avoiding teslas like plague, novelty of cool tech gadget is long gone and reality seeps in.
- hackton 2y ago> The initials CB on a Tesla Model S battery, following Cristina Balan's design input I don't see it, do you?
- terse-broccoli 2y agoTook me a minute as well: look at the left side only. It’s a lower case c above a lower case b. With a diagonal line connecting them. Right side is just a mirror image.
- kodarna 2y agoIt's vertical, and mirrored horizontally. c ɔ b d
- spiderfarmer 2y agoReportedly, Tesla is having a big issue with their accelerator pedal right now. The thin metal cover of that pedal is not always thoroughly secured and slides off easily, wedging itself into the carpet behind the pedal. This causes the accelerator to be stuck (at high velocity!). https://insideevs.com/news/716031/tesla-cybertruck-stuck-accelerator-pedal/ https://insideevs.com/news/716031/tesla-cybertruck-stuck-acc... As a Tesla customer, you are part of the QA team. That's what you get when they make the employees of that company to afraid to speak up and report serious issues.
- KingOfCoders 2y ago"As a Tesla customer, you are part of the QA team." More like a stunt team.
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- FerretFred 2y agoCheaper than a real QA team and Tesla can ignore you if you come up with something inconvenient.
- rob74 2y agoIn a petrol engine car you could react by shifting out of gear and flooring the brake pedal (and the clutch pedal if you have one). But what do you do in an electric car? Teslas do have a neutral gear, but it's more and more hidden with every new car generation (according to https://www.notateslaapp.com/tesla-reference/598/how-to-put-a-tesla-in-neutral https://www.notateslaapp.com/tesla-reference/598/how-to-put-..., for some newer models it's only available via the touchscreen). So you have to hope that the brake pedal will override the gas pedal?
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- cjk2 2y agoI made this comment the other day. Sounds like it still applies. Tesla are car Boeing.
- the-lazy-guy 2y agoThis does not sound as bad as you want it to. Last time I checked, Boeing was responsible roughly for the half of all flights worldwide and fligths are 3 orders of magnitude safer than car trips.
- TaylorAlexander 2y agoThe real question is how does their safety stack up against other companies in the field today? Sure you’re probably not going to die on a Boeing but would you rather fly Boeing or Airbus?
- cjk2 2y agoIt's a good question but it's as much airline as the aircraft. Personally I don't fly Boeing because I don't want them getting business. But I will pick an airline that doesn't have a crap safety and maintenance record on top of that.
- cjk2 2y agoThat's not the metric I am comparing. I am comparing safety culture. A bad safety culture has the propensity to do serious harm to people and should be called out. When a business, read Boeing/Tesla/Toyota, cover up safety claims they can no longer be trusted with any decision where your safety is considered. That applies to being the victim of a safety outcome as well i.e. you do not own the product but it hurts you in some way. FAA grounded entire Boeing types. There is not that oversight in the commercial car industry.
- philistine 2y agoThe whole Toyota episode with the phantom acceleration does not equate with a bad company culture. The problem was too complex and complicated for the company to grok, and they had unbelievably bad PR. I mean, most of the Toyota incidents are of people in a new car, who messed up pedals. It happens, do not discard it!
- INTPenis 2y agoThey're using startup tactics to produce 2 ton vehicles.
- LightBug1 2y agoAt this point, how could anyone even contemplate buying from such a scummy company? ... (not necessarily staff, although you'd have to assume that many of them have bought in the Elon hype and are, as such, complicit). If branding means anything in this day and age, how can you associate yourself with such scummy brand? As a customer or employee? I was a fanboy a decade ago. Wouldn't touch them with your bargepole now ... If you have one - sell it - or get the batteries repurposed into a conversion project.
- mschuster91 2y ago> At this point, how could anyone even contemplate buying from such a scummy company? Sad to say it but Tesla is still miles ahead of the competition in specs (power, torque, speed, range) at the respective pricepoints.
- neom 2y agoI don't drive, and I've not looked for a while, but just from the car stuff I see on YouTube, surly Hyundai are getting pretty close?
- t43562 2y agoYes, Tesla are not streets ahead anymore in range. The infotainment is still widely considered to be best but other manufacturers are improving and do well on other metrics which may balance it up for you. There are also a lot more reasonably priced cars from other manufacturers - depends where you live but there's a lot of choice in Europe/UK now.
- master-lincoln 2y agoBut it's far behind in safety, comfort, ergonomics, quality, privacy. So we need to chose what is important to us
- throwaway61024 2y agoTesla is still ahead of it competitors in safety [1][2]. Can you elaborate on what you mean by privacy? [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renault_Zoe#Safety https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renault_Zoe#Safety [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tesla_Model_3#Safety https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tesla_Model_3#Safety
- neglesaks 2y ago>"I want to clear my name. I wish Elon Musk had the decency to apologise," is her message to the company’s billionaire boss. Know this: You will never get a narcissist to genuinely apologize.
- WinstonSmith84 2y agoSure, but... it's easy to imagine what an apology would cause: a precedent. That would open the door to a lot more potential issues.
- neglesaks 2y agoThis is also true; apologies would quite possibly be useful in a legal action.
- nprateem 2y agoBut you might get a fat cheque from a billionaire.
- snovv_crash 2y agoIs this an issue the scale of Dieselgate? Because it seems that's roughly what it takes for an automotive CEO to issue an apology.
- Fnoord 2y agoThe amount of children he has (like George Clooney), even multiple women pregnant at the same time [1]. I don't understand why women fall for it, and assume this time it is different. Though maybe that is part of the package deal? [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elon_Musk#Personal_life https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elon_Musk#Personal_life
- gilbetron 2y agoI thought George Clooney only has two kids.
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- zigman1 2y agoIts honestly baffling how out of porch Tesla has fallen. I remember the times around when Model S first came out, the security of the car was one of the biggest praises it received. It excelled in crash tests, I don't know if this is still the case, but recently it seems like the car wants to kill you so it can show the developers which process needs improvement. "it is all about deleting just a bit more than you feel comfortable with"
- chasd00 2y agoIf Musk didn’t buy Twitter and get tech groupthink subscriber’s undergarments in a twist then Tesla would still be a tech darling. His antics on social media is doing more damage to Tesla’s brand than anything else.
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- Beldin 2y agoAlternatively, his attention being elsewhere has removed the reality-distortion field around Tesla and they are now being treated as other companies would.
- pas 2y agoEVs (ought to) do well because they are heavy, their center of mass is very low (because the batteries are dense and the battery pack is huge, to get the range and redundancy / current distribution), and no engine in the front, so the whole compartment can act as a big crumple zone.
- m463 2y agocarpets on the older cars is still a problem. They had round adhesive velcro patches that stuck to round smooth areas on the underside of the carpets. These would velcro to pucks that screwed into the floor carpet there all kinds of problems - the picks would come loose, and the adhesive holding the velcro patch to the carpet would come loose in a hot car. and the carpets would bunch up, usually under the accelerator pedal. A lot of interior stuff was redesigned better for the newer cars, but then they killed most controls and put them on the touchscreen, ugh. (No shifter stalk anymore, car guesses direction you want to go, no turn signal stalk, no headlight/wiper stalk, etc)
- shiroiushi 2y ago>No shifter stalk anymore, car guesses direction you want to go, no turn signal stalk, no headlight/wiper stalk, etc Sounds like they talked to the designers at Apple.
- m463 2y agoone-button mouse.
- dzhiurgis 2y agoBoth companies are valued in trillions. Mission failed successfully.
- steve_adams_86 2y agoPretty soon you’ll have to flip your Tesla over to charge it
- bradfox2 2y agoOur 2013 carpet does it, very annoying. Happens under the accelerator pedal.
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- WinstonSmith84 2y agoIndeed, Pyramids have not been built with human rights in mind
- shiroiushi 2y agoDo we know this for sure? For all we know, the pyramid laborers were paid a fair wage for the time.
- rsynnott 2y agoThey were almost certainly built with corvée labour; most people would consider this slavery today (except possibly in the context of military conscription), but not at the time.
- shiroiushi 2y agoVery interesting; I didn't know about this before. Reading the wikipedia article about it, it really doesn't seem like what we think of as "slavery" though. It actually seems more like a form of taxation, but instead of paying the government with money, you pay with your time and labor.
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- edgineer 2y agoThe problem was the driver footwell carpet curling up? Seems like you'd notice it's not staying in place long before it gets stuck under a pedal, no?
- bayindirh 2y agoNope. The problem is the accelerator pedal can be telescopic and latch itself under a seam. You either need to remove the seam, or make the pedal non telescopic.
- water-data-dude 2y agoI think that’s a separate issue. The pedal cover coming loose and jamming the accelerator down is a recent issue with the Cybertruck, the article says she raised the carped issue back in 2014.
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- suddenclarity 2y agoUnless I missed it, the article seems to leave out details. According to previous articles, she seemingly accused Tesla of corruption by placing orders to suppliers based on friendship more than quality and price. The safety issue of mats sliding was just one part of the complaints. The article also states that Tesla never provided any details about her secret personal project, but in previous articles it was said to be her project with "a way to replace flip-down sun visors with touch-based windshield-dimming technology". This included a paid trip to New York which Tesla supposedly claim wasn't approved. I'm not saying it makes a difference but especially the second part seems strange to leave out when the whole legal battle seems to center around it.
- janice1999 2y agoThat honestly sounds like a typical corporate smear attempt - vague, hard to (dis)prove accusations with no proof whatsoever presented. Tesla/Elon have a track report of egregiously lying when it comes to whistleblowers or people they don't like. That includes an obviously fake shooter threat that could have killed one whistleblower [0] and Elon very publicly accusing an innocent man of being a pedophile. I'm going to side with the whistleblower until proven otherwise. [0] https://medium.com/bloomberg-businessweek/when-elon-musk-tried-to-destroy-a-tesla-whistleblower-ddd7a056136b https://medium.com/bloomberg-businessweek/when-elon-musk-tri...
- tasuki 2y ago> Ultimately, Ms Balan says, she has doggedly pursued the case for so long because she wants to prove her innocence to her son. This... does not make any sense? Like, I don't even know about this case, but it's kind of obvious she was let go because Tesla didn't like to hear what she had to say? Why would her own son of all people think she was guilty?
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