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> The vaccines didn't protect people from getting covid What do you mean by this? The vaccines absolutely decreased the likelihood of getting and the severity

> The vaccines didn't protect people from getting covid What do you mean by this? The vaccines absolutely decreased the likelihood of getting and the severity of Covid.

ctrw 3y ago
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- Daishiman 3y ago
  Whatever information you're getting, know that you're on the end of disinformation, because the mortality reductions were definitely broad-spectrum.
  - ctrw 3y ago
    Is that why the US is the only country to mandate covid vaccines for children when there were no deaths in that group?
    - boxed 3y ago
      No, that's because you are right in that politics got involved so people got super confused. Wearing masks indoors in your own home for social signaling or wearing masks outdoors after it was long clear that was silly. But the US being overly politicized doesn't have any impact on if the vaccine worked or not. Reality doesn't care.
    - aredox 2y ago
      The US does not mandate covid vaccines for children. you are indeed deeply misinformed, to the point of not getting basic facts right. Please admit it. https://www.statista.com/chart/25326/obligatory-vaccination-against-covid-19/ https://www.statista.com/chart/25326/obligatory-vaccination-... https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/countries-making-covid-19-vaccines-mandatory-2021-08-16/ https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/...
carlosjobim 2y ago
I meant exactly what I wrote, almost everybody who took the vaccines contracted covid.
- drekk 2y ago
  Protecting people from COVID involves more than preventing them from contracting the illness. It reduced mortality and hospitalizations. Compare the mortality rate in a country like Brazil to the US and tell me again how the vaccines didn't protect people from COVID. I seriously don't get this antivax nonsense. People get the flu after a flu vaccine sometimes too. The point is to not have a naive immune system if all other defenses fail.
  - carlosjobim 2y ago
    > I seriously don't get this antivax nonsense. Maybe you have been conditioned to react with extreme suspicion when somebody even dares to mention the word "vaccine", so you don't even read what people write and start imagining what they "must be meaning"? We live in an age of paranoia and hostility, even after the pandemic. I'm incredibly happy that the people saying that the vaccines were dangerous were wrong. It's a shame they didn't protect people better, but in the end the pandemic ended just as expected, ie a super-contagious and much less lethal strain infected everybody. This is how the black plague probably ended, reading accounts from the time. Even if they didn't know anything about viruses then.
    - CogitoCogito 2y ago
      > It's a shame they didn't protect people better… And it’s great its protection wasn’t worse! > …but in the end the pandemic ended just as expected, ie a super-contagious and much less lethal strain infected everybody. This is how the black plague probably ended, reading accounts from the time. Even if they didn't know anything about viruses then. There was never any question that in the long term general immunity wouldn’t cause the strains to become less virulent, it was always a question of how many people would die or get very sick before we got there. The Black Death killed a third of Europes population so im happy we know more about viruses now than they did then.

> The vaccines didn't protect people from getting covid What do you mean by this? The vaccines absolutely decreased the likelihood of getting and the severity of Covid.

ctrw 3y ago

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Daishiman 3y ago
Whatever information you're getting, know that you're on the end of disinformation, because the mortality reductions were definitely broad-spectrum.
- ctrw 3y ago
  Is that why the US is the only country to mandate covid vaccines for children when there were no deaths in that group?
  - boxed 3y ago
    No, that's because you are right in that politics got involved so people got super confused. Wearing masks indoors in your own home for social signaling or wearing masks outdoors after it was long clear that was silly. But the US being overly politicized doesn't have any impact on if the vaccine worked or not. Reality doesn't care.
  - aredox 2y ago
    The US does not mandate covid vaccines for children. you are indeed deeply misinformed, to the point of not getting basic facts right. Please admit it. https://www.statista.com/chart/25326/obligatory-vaccination-against-covid-19/ https://www.statista.com/chart/25326/obligatory-vaccination-... https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/countries-making-covid-19-vaccines-mandatory-2021-08-16/ https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/...

carlosjobim 2y ago

I meant exactly what I wrote, almost everybody who took the vaccines contracted covid.

drekk 2y ago
Protecting people from COVID involves more than preventing them from contracting the illness. It reduced mortality and hospitalizations. Compare the mortality rate in a country like Brazil to the US and tell me again how the vaccines didn't protect people from COVID. I seriously don't get this antivax nonsense. People get the flu after a flu vaccine sometimes too. The point is to not have a naive immune system if all other defenses fail.
- carlosjobim 2y ago
  > I seriously don't get this antivax nonsense. Maybe you have been conditioned to react with extreme suspicion when somebody even dares to mention the word "vaccine", so you don't even read what people write and start imagining what they "must be meaning"? We live in an age of paranoia and hostility, even after the pandemic. I'm incredibly happy that the people saying that the vaccines were dangerous were wrong. It's a shame they didn't protect people better, but in the end the pandemic ended just as expected, ie a super-contagious and much less lethal strain infected everybody. This is how the black plague probably ended, reading accounts from the time. Even if they didn't know anything about viruses then.
  - CogitoCogito 2y ago
    > It's a shame they didn't protect people better… And it’s great its protection wasn’t worse! > …but in the end the pandemic ended just as expected, ie a super-contagious and much less lethal strain infected everybody. This is how the black plague probably ended, reading accounts from the time. Even if they didn't know anything about viruses then. There was never any question that in the long term general immunity wouldn’t cause the strains to become less virulent, it was always a question of how many people would die or get very sick before we got there. The Black Death killed a third of Europes population so im happy we know more about viruses now than they did then.