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Slightly related, yesterday someone posted this AI-generated song: https://www.udio.com/songs/p66uVGEgifEBLdoR5Ttyue https://www.udio.com/songs/p66uVGEgifEBLdo

Slightly related, yesterday someone posted this AI-generated song: https://www.udio.com/songs/p66uVGEgifEBLdoR5Ttyue https://www.udio.com/songs/p66uVGEgifEBLdoR5Ttyue It's not that it's perfect, it's cheesy and commercial and obviously lacking some coherence- but it also has some pretty good parts and... performances... and if passed on radio it would certainly attract attention. A casual listener would hardly imagine that it's AI-generated. The scariest part are the lyrics: "lorem ipsum dolor sit amet...". Nonsense, just pure mindless nonsense, sung with feeling and expression. I think this is a good example of the things to come.

hammock 3y ago
We have had non-AI music that fits your entire description for some time now. See also the k-pop revolution (as stanned by people who don’t understand a word of Korean)
- dfee 3y ago
  Yes, that’s why the parent comment is relevant.
- wruza 3y ago
  I actually like K-POP because I don't understand a word of Korean.
wavemode 3y ago
Meh. Uncreative mass-produced music has existed forever. I don't see this sort of thing as much of a threat to the mainstream music industry, since the mainstream music industry isn't really about selling music, it's about selling concert tickets.
- wavemode 3y ago
  Though I should add that AI probably will have a big effect on bespoke and cinematic music. Look forward to hearing lots of this stuff in Hollywood, especially lower-budget TV shows.
- GeoAtreides 3y ago
  Not at this scale. There was never a time in history when it was so easy to produce SO MANY songs. Before, you actually had to pay people to compose songs and those people had to sit down at a piano and write the songs, then other people had to perform the songs. Now, I can buy a certain number (?) of the latest NVIDIA GPUs, build a cluster, and then churn out songs literally 24/7. Endlessly, song after song after song, each minute a new song. Just press the button, and a new song it created -- _no other humans involved_. Yes, slop, kitsch and mass produced music were always produced. Never at this scale.
jerojero 3y ago
If you're a lyricist you can use these tools to make good songs that do have a message. If you're a song maker you can probably use LLMs to put together a decent lyric or help in the process of turning your ideas into something that makes sense. To think that you just press a button and something comes out of it and you're happy with that, eh, I mean it's possible but that's never what arts been about. You can get lucky, but you can have consistently decent results by just putting some more effort into the creation process.
- throw310822 3y ago
  Yes, the human is still in the loop, at least for choosing the best generations. But I don't think it will be there for long, how old is this tech now? A year, max? Give it a few more. Then, before deciding that we like a song that we like, we'll have to investigate whether it's real or not. If the emphasis and expression and tonal changes actually correspond to the intents and emotions of a performer or are just created from nothing.
dylan604 3y ago
what radio station plays music like that? it's not hiphop/rap/r&b, it's not country, and it's not mix of 70s/80s/90s. it's also not sports or politics talk. it's also not Tejano. if there's a radio station in your area that plays anything other than what I've listed, you have a much better market than the one I'm in
- eimrine 3y ago
  Enough good for rock stations, probably Americans don't have a one because your guitar music market is full with country and here in Europe we barely recognize this genre at all.
- imacomputer 3y ago
  BBC radio plays some cool music late at night.
cdme 3y ago
Sounds like terrible, generic power metal. I don't think we need it generated at scale. Nightwish sans what little made their work interesting.

hammock 3y ago

We have had non-AI music that fits your entire description for some time now. See also the k-pop revolution (as stanned by people who don’t understand a word of Korean)

dfee 3y ago
Yes, that’s why the parent comment is relevant.
wruza 3y ago
I actually like K-POP because I don't understand a word of Korean.

wavemode 3y ago

Meh. Uncreative mass-produced music has existed forever. I don't see this sort of thing as much of a threat to the mainstream music industry, since the mainstream music industry isn't really about selling music, it's about selling concert tickets.

wavemode 3y ago
Though I should add that AI probably will have a big effect on bespoke and cinematic music. Look forward to hearing lots of this stuff in Hollywood, especially lower-budget TV shows.
GeoAtreides 3y ago
Not at this scale. There was never a time in history when it was so easy to produce SO MANY songs. Before, you actually had to pay people to compose songs and those people had to sit down at a piano and write the songs, then other people had to perform the songs. Now, I can buy a certain number (?) of the latest NVIDIA GPUs, build a cluster, and then churn out songs literally 24/7. Endlessly, song after song after song, each minute a new song. Just press the button, and a new song it created -- _no other humans involved_. Yes, slop, kitsch and mass produced music were always produced. Never at this scale.

jerojero 3y ago

If you're a lyricist you can use these tools to make good songs that do have a message. If you're a song maker you can probably use LLMs to put together a decent lyric or help in the process of turning your ideas into something that makes sense. To think that you just press a button and something comes out of it and you're happy with that, eh, I mean it's possible but that's never what arts been about. You can get lucky, but you can have consistently decent results by just putting some more effort into the creation process.

throw310822 3y ago
Yes, the human is still in the loop, at least for choosing the best generations. But I don't think it will be there for long, how old is this tech now? A year, max? Give it a few more. Then, before deciding that we like a song that we like, we'll have to investigate whether it's real or not. If the emphasis and expression and tonal changes actually correspond to the intents and emotions of a performer or are just created from nothing.

dylan604 3y ago

what radio station plays music like that? it's not hiphop/rap/r&b, it's not country, and it's not mix of 70s/80s/90s. it's also not sports or politics talk. it's also not Tejano. if there's a radio station in your area that plays anything other than what I've listed, you have a much better market than the one I'm in

eimrine 3y ago
Enough good for rock stations, probably Americans don't have a one because your guitar music market is full with country and here in Europe we barely recognize this genre at all.
imacomputer 3y ago
BBC radio plays some cool music late at night.

cdme 3y ago

Sounds like terrible, generic power metal. I don't think we need it generated at scale. Nightwish sans what little made their work interesting.