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lol, this sounds exactly right. Vertical integration in computing is a feature, not a bug. It's amazing windows can do what it does on virtually -any- hardware.

by mvkel 3y ago

lol, this sounds exactly right. Vertical integration in computing is a feature, not a bug. It's amazing windows can do what it does on virtually -any- hardware. I do wish Linux distros had some kind of "guaranteed hardware" support, where if you buy exactly the right components, it'll be a totally seamless experience

SamuelAdams 3y ago
There are many laptops and desktops that fit the bill. Frame.work: https://frame.work/ https://frame.work/ Dell: https://www.dell.com/support/kbdoc/en-us/000138246/linux-on-dell-desktops-and-laptops https://www.dell.com/support/kbdoc/en-us/000138246/linux-on-... System76: https://system76.com/laptops https://system76.com/laptops Kubuntu Focus: https://kfocus.org/land/business https://kfocus.org/land/business I am sure there are more, this is only what I have found in less than 5 minutes of searching.
- mvkel 3y ago
  1. Frame.work looks to be all about modularizing laptop hardware, but it doesn't have particular support for any linux distros, and a quick glance at the forums (https://community.frame.work/c/framework-laptop/linux/91 https://community.frame.work/c/framework-laptop/linux/91) looks like people are having the same compatibility issues. 2. Dell supports an Ubuntu that was released in March 2023. 3. "on my Lemur Pro 10, the touchpad didn't work on Linux Mint out of the box." 4. Works perfectly on "Kubuntu," which... is great! Vertical integration!
LoganDark 3y ago
> It's amazing windows can do what it does on virtually -any- hardware. Not disagreeing, but I think one of the major defining factors behind this is that most OEMs specifically design their hardware and drivers to work with Windows first. If they did the same for Linux instead, suddenly Linux would start to work with everything. Because having each individual piece of hardware support Linux has a much higher success rate than hoping an incomplete sweep over the available hardware by Linux will have covered everything that makes up a particular machine

by mvkel 3y ago

SamuelAdams 3y ago

There are many laptops and desktops that fit the bill. Frame.work: https://frame.work/ https://frame.work/ Dell: https://www.dell.com/support/kbdoc/en-us/000138246/linux-on-dell-desktops-and-laptops https://www.dell.com/support/kbdoc/en-us/000138246/linux-on-... System76: https://system76.com/laptops https://system76.com/laptops Kubuntu Focus: https://kfocus.org/land/business https://kfocus.org/land/business I am sure there are more, this is only what I have found in less than 5 minutes of searching.

mvkel 3y ago
1. Frame.work looks to be all about modularizing laptop hardware, but it doesn't have particular support for any linux distros, and a quick glance at the forums (https://community.frame.work/c/framework-laptop/linux/91 https://community.frame.work/c/framework-laptop/linux/91) looks like people are having the same compatibility issues. 2. Dell supports an Ubuntu that was released in March 2023. 3. "on my Lemur Pro 10, the touchpad didn't work on Linux Mint out of the box." 4. Works perfectly on "Kubuntu," which... is great! Vertical integration!

LoganDark 3y ago

> It's amazing windows can do what it does on virtually -any- hardware. Not disagreeing, but I think one of the major defining factors behind this is that most OEMs specifically design their hardware and drivers to work with Windows first. If they did the same for Linux instead, suddenly Linux would start to work with everything. Because having each individual piece of hardware support Linux has a much higher success rate than hoping an incomplete sweep over the available hardware by Linux will have covered everything that makes up a particular machine