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It depends on the use case. Linux often works well on desktop computers without too many fancy peripherals, but I generally do not recommend Linux as a laptop O

It depends on the use case. Linux often works well on desktop computers without too many fancy peripherals, but I generally do not recommend Linux as a laptop OS for “normies.” I have installed various flavors of Linux on various laptops over the years, and 100% of the time there were tough-to-diagnose issues with hardware components. With one laptop, the brightness level could not be changed. With another, installing Linux caused the battery to drain three times as fast and hibernation didn’t work properly. With another, I accidentally played music so loud that the speakers broke. These are all things that I was able to figure out using my Google skills and general knowledge of Linux, but it is not an experience I’d recommend for a “regular person.”

tombert 2y ago
I dunno, I had pretty good luck with Ubuntu on my previous laptop. I do not remember the model number but it was an Asus ROG Strix, with an AMD processor and graphics card. I did specifically buy it around peripherals that I knew were officially Linux supported, but the install on it was extremely painless. That laptop was a piece of shit that literally started disintegrating, but Linux was certainly not to blame there.
mvkel 2y ago
lol, this sounds exactly right. Vertical integration in computing is a feature, not a bug. It's amazing windows can do what it does on virtually -any- hardware. I do wish Linux distros had some kind of "guaranteed hardware" support, where if you buy exactly the right components, it'll be a totally seamless experience
- SamuelAdams 2y ago
  There are many laptops and desktops that fit the bill. Frame.work: https://frame.work/ https://frame.work/ Dell: https://www.dell.com/support/kbdoc/en-us/000138246/linux-on-dell-desktops-and-laptops https://www.dell.com/support/kbdoc/en-us/000138246/linux-on-... System76: https://system76.com/laptops https://system76.com/laptops Kubuntu Focus: https://kfocus.org/land/business https://kfocus.org/land/business I am sure there are more, this is only what I have found in less than 5 minutes of searching.
  - mvkel 2y ago
    1. Frame.work looks to be all about modularizing laptop hardware, but it doesn't have particular support for any linux distros, and a quick glance at the forums (https://community.frame.work/c/framework-laptop/linux/91 https://community.frame.work/c/framework-laptop/linux/91) looks like people are having the same compatibility issues. 2. Dell supports an Ubuntu that was released in March 2023. 3. "on my Lemur Pro 10, the touchpad didn't work on Linux Mint out of the box." 4. Works perfectly on "Kubuntu," which... is great! Vertical integration!
- LoganDark 2y ago
  > It's amazing windows can do what it does on virtually -any- hardware. Not disagreeing, but I think one of the major defining factors behind this is that most OEMs specifically design their hardware and drivers to work with Windows first. If they did the same for Linux instead, suddenly Linux would start to work with everything. Because having each individual piece of hardware support Linux has a much higher success rate than hoping an incomplete sweep over the available hardware by Linux will have covered everything that makes up a particular machine
VHRanger 2y ago
I thought Framework laptop supported linux pretty well?
dlahoda 2y ago
asking gpt for help is awesome these days, it speaks like good old linux user friend i never had. i used linux on high end dell and msi laptopx not problem with battery. linux really works way better now it did 6+ years ago, erased my trauma all my 4 attemps for years to use it.

tombert 2y ago

I dunno, I had pretty good luck with Ubuntu on my previous laptop. I do not remember the model number but it was an Asus ROG Strix, with an AMD processor and graphics card. I did specifically buy it around peripherals that I knew were officially Linux supported, but the install on it was extremely painless. That laptop was a piece of shit that literally started disintegrating, but Linux was certainly not to blame there.

mvkel 2y ago

lol, this sounds exactly right. Vertical integration in computing is a feature, not a bug. It's amazing windows can do what it does on virtually -any- hardware. I do wish Linux distros had some kind of "guaranteed hardware" support, where if you buy exactly the right components, it'll be a totally seamless experience

SamuelAdams 2y ago
There are many laptops and desktops that fit the bill. Frame.work: https://frame.work/ https://frame.work/ Dell: https://www.dell.com/support/kbdoc/en-us/000138246/linux-on-dell-desktops-and-laptops https://www.dell.com/support/kbdoc/en-us/000138246/linux-on-... System76: https://system76.com/laptops https://system76.com/laptops Kubuntu Focus: https://kfocus.org/land/business https://kfocus.org/land/business I am sure there are more, this is only what I have found in less than 5 minutes of searching.
- mvkel 2y ago
  1. Frame.work looks to be all about modularizing laptop hardware, but it doesn't have particular support for any linux distros, and a quick glance at the forums (https://community.frame.work/c/framework-laptop/linux/91 https://community.frame.work/c/framework-laptop/linux/91) looks like people are having the same compatibility issues. 2. Dell supports an Ubuntu that was released in March 2023. 3. "on my Lemur Pro 10, the touchpad didn't work on Linux Mint out of the box." 4. Works perfectly on "Kubuntu," which... is great! Vertical integration!
LoganDark 2y ago
> It's amazing windows can do what it does on virtually -any- hardware. Not disagreeing, but I think one of the major defining factors behind this is that most OEMs specifically design their hardware and drivers to work with Windows first. If they did the same for Linux instead, suddenly Linux would start to work with everything. Because having each individual piece of hardware support Linux has a much higher success rate than hoping an incomplete sweep over the available hardware by Linux will have covered everything that makes up a particular machine

VHRanger 2y ago

I thought Framework laptop supported linux pretty well?

dlahoda 2y ago

asking gpt for help is awesome these days, it speaks like good old linux user friend i never had. i used linux on high end dell and msi laptopx not problem with battery. linux really works way better now it did 6+ years ago, erased my trauma all my 4 attemps for years to use it.