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Wait, are you saying this something you read in both the Tractatus and the PI? They are quite opposed as texts! That's kinda why he wrote the PI at all.. I d
by beepbooptheory 3y ago
Wait, are you saying this something you read in both the Tractatus and the PI? They are quite opposed as texts! That's kinda why he wrote the PI at all..
I don't think Wittgenstein would agree, first of all, that there is a "natural logic" to language. At least in the PI, that kind of entity--"the natural logic of language"--is precisely the kind of weird and imprecise use of language he is trying to expose. Even more, to say that such a logic "allows" for anything (like metaphors) feels like a very very strange thing for Wittgenstein to assert. He would ask "what do you mean by 'allows'"?
All we know, according to him (in the PI), is that we find ourselves speaking in situations. Sometimes I say something, and my partner picks up the right brick, other times they do nothing, or hit me. In the PI, all the rest is doing away with things, like our idea of private language, the irreality of things like pain, etc. To conclude that he would make such assertions about the "nature" of language, of poetry, whatever, seems like maybe too quick a reading of the text. It is at best, a weirdly mystical reading of him, that he probably would not be too happy about (but don't worry about that, he was an asshole).
The argument you are making sounds much more French. Derrida or Lyotard have said similar things (in their earlier, more linguistic years). They might be better friend to you here.
- darby_eight 3y ago> They are quite opposed as texts! The texts are quite different, this is true, but I don't find them contradictory. Whereas Tractatus was almost a facetious or flippant rejection of the millenia-long project to agree on a philosophical subset of language suitable for rigorous philosophy (although it continues today in the form of analytical philosophy), PI basically says "well we don't need to throw the baby out with the bath water", which I think is a fantastically mature response to a flawed tool that's still the best we have to reason about the universe. So: not contradictory in evaluation of fundamental compatibility of non-formal language for the formal needs of propositional philosophy, but perhaps contradictory in implied reaction to this realization.