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Yeah Microsoft, I mean openai, compressing it into an ”ai voice” is “open”.

by ametrau 3y ago

tsunamifury 3y ago
Hackernews really instant able to understand dark jokes are they.
- Dylan16807 3y ago
  You didn't really do the joke right. The second person is supposed to be doing the thing requested, but in a way the first person doesn't like. In this case, that would be AI companies contributing to a "free and open internet", but doing it """wrong""". But they're not contributing at all. The problem isn't that "free and open internet" is getting monkeys-pawed, it's all this closed proprietary stuff.
  - rstuart4133 3y ago
    > You didn't really do the joke right. It summed up many comments and attitudes I see here on LLM's in under 30 words. In fact it's so clever it's one of the few posts here I'm certain wasn't produced by an LLM.
    - Dylan16807 3y ago
      The factual elements work as a summary. But the entire aspect of just deserts, getting what you asked for and being unhappy, hypocrisy, it isn't there. So by implying that kind of thing, it doesn't work. It's almost clever.
      - tsunamifury 3y ago
        Lordy you are nerds. The point is that free and open also equals free to be a predator. The joke is that people always think free and open just means what is good for them but truly free is often free for a predator to eat it all and make it closed. While you guys lecture and circle jerk about the joke you miss the real point. Like fuck dudes are you this dense? Your comments are convincing me LLMs are smarter than people.
        Dylan16807 3y ago
        > truly free is often free for a predator to eat it all and make it closed That doesn't apply when the word "open" is helping clarify. A predator making open things closed isn't people asking for the wrong thing and getting egg on their face, it's people not getting what they asked for at all through no fault of their own. Especially because this same kind of crawling works on a non-open internet. > circle jerk Do you say that any time someone disagrees with you, or is there something here in specific that you're reacting to?
        tsunamifury 3y ago
        No just to the misunderstanding of what open is. So many people thing free and open also has rules that protect them. It does not.
        Dylan16807 3y ago
        An open thing can have protections against becoming non-open, and still be open. But protections or not, someone saying "not like that" about the open web only properly applies when people or companies do something as part of their open web actions. If they do other bad things then "not like that" doesn't apply there. Publishing a virus to the Web would be "not like that". Not publishing at all is in a different category.
        tsunamifury 3y ago
        Not like that!

Yeah Microsoft, I mean openai, compressing it into an ”ai voice” is “open”.

tsunamifury 3y ago

Hackernews really instant able to understand dark jokes are they.

Dylan16807 3y ago
You didn't really do the joke right. The second person is supposed to be doing the thing requested, but in a way the first person doesn't like. In this case, that would be AI companies contributing to a "free and open internet", but doing it """wrong""". But they're not contributing at all. The problem isn't that "free and open internet" is getting monkeys-pawed, it's all this closed proprietary stuff.
- rstuart4133 3y ago
  > You didn't really do the joke right. It summed up many comments and attitudes I see here on LLM's in under 30 words. In fact it's so clever it's one of the few posts here I'm certain wasn't produced by an LLM.
  - Dylan16807 3y ago
    The factual elements work as a summary. But the entire aspect of just deserts, getting what you asked for and being unhappy, hypocrisy, it isn't there. So by implying that kind of thing, it doesn't work. It's almost clever.
    - tsunamifury 3y ago
      Lordy you are nerds. The point is that free and open also equals free to be a predator. The joke is that people always think free and open just means what is good for them but truly free is often free for a predator to eat it all and make it closed. While you guys lecture and circle jerk about the joke you miss the real point. Like fuck dudes are you this dense? Your comments are convincing me LLMs are smarter than people.
      - Dylan16807 3y ago
        > truly free is often free for a predator to eat it all and make it closed That doesn't apply when the word "open" is helping clarify. A predator making open things closed isn't people asking for the wrong thing and getting egg on their face, it's people not getting what they asked for at all through no fault of their own. Especially because this same kind of crawling works on a non-open internet. > circle jerk Do you say that any time someone disagrees with you, or is there something here in specific that you're reacting to?
        tsunamifury 3y ago
        No just to the misunderstanding of what open is. So many people thing free and open also has rules that protect them. It does not.
        Dylan16807 3y ago
        An open thing can have protections against becoming non-open, and still be open. But protections or not, someone saying "not like that" about the open web only properly applies when people or companies do something as part of their open web actions. If they do other bad things then "not like that" doesn't apply there. Publishing a virus to the Web would be "not like that". Not publishing at all is in a different category.
        tsunamifury 3y ago
        Not like that!