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I have to say, I completely lost it at the whisper '(The "Software")' (0:18)... give this tech another year or two and it will be better quality than your avera

by epaga 3y ago

I have to say, I completely lost it at the whisper '(The "Software")' (0:18)... give this tech another year or two and it will be better quality than your average radio song.

mrfinn 3y ago
At the current rate of progress maybe it'll be months. I did a song for my company just to have fun around an event and the quality of the song was astounding, better than this one I think also using v3. I didn't even write the lyrics, I just described what I want in the prompt. Also I used one of poems I wrote as a teenager (not a lot of them) to create a song... the AI would notice the emphasis in the feelings of the lyrics, exactly in the same way I felt them, so it made pauses and chorus accordingly.
- consp 3y ago
  Pretty much all mainstream songs are of the same tempo (or slight variations), the same beat, the same scale, the same accents etc. I'm not surprised at all it can be regurgitated by an generative model. What I would like to see is what happens if you ask it to do in 5/8, 5/4 or any of the 7/* variants and see how that goes (I have no idea, might actually work). There are some examples in common music but not a lot especially for the more obscure ones. Unless they also trained it on a lot of international folk songs.
  - abhpro 3y ago
    Almost none of what you said is true. Same scale? Tempo? Same beat? You think artists are just all using the same instrumental track? And yes it can do odd time signatures. It can do all sorts of genres like art pop, cinematic scores, ambient, math rock, avant garde, baroque, etc.
    - rootlocus 3y ago
      There's a surprising number of pop songs that use the same or close to the same chord progression.
- svantana 3y ago
  It reminds me of CGI in the 90's. Everyone was so astounded over the quality of jurassic park and toy story, the rate of improvements was mindboggling. Predictions were made that in a few years, actors and movie studios would be obsolete. But in the meantime, audiences started to notice artifacts that were not apparent to the untrained eye - CGI was actually ugly! And here we are 30 years later - actors are still on sets.
  - n4r9 3y ago
    I had a similar reaction. We can still detect AI-generated images after years of progress; I think it's hasty to say they'll be indistinguishable any time soon.
    - int_19h 3y ago
      Thing is, they don't have to be indistinguishable. They just have to be "good enough" to be a major disruption to that market. And it's not a particularly high bar.
      - svantana 3y ago
        Sure, just as tv shows use obvious CGI for animals, explosions etc - it's cheaper and more practical. Particularly background music that needs to be licensed for ads and such is very likely to be disrupted in the next few years.
  - fragmede 3y ago
    but the sets of today aren't the sets of the 90's. sets were giant green screens for a second, now they're giant TV's. they're still on set, sure, but things have changed.
cedws 3y ago
I don't think I can endure much more AI slop seeping its way into my life.
- weregiraffe 3y ago
  Art will realign to put more value on live performances. Don't worry, people who push AI art don't understand that art is a form of communication between humans. They might learn when the bubble pops and they are left with a trillion shiny "art" objects that are worth nothing, because nobody wants to look at them.
  - Morelesshell 3y ago
    Depending on the popularity and your income, the experience of a artist life is really not that intim as you make it.
    - weregiraffe 3y ago
      The experience of knowing there's a human behind the message is valuable. People hated corporate propaganda "art" before AI was a thing, for the same reason it is not human.
      - erikbye 3y ago
        Depending on the AI tool in question, and the level of control it offers the human, there can definitely be a human behind the message, even if the final output is AI generated, the human had a creative vision and used the available tools to make it happen. It's no different than using Photoshop. Unless you only consider art done with oil and on a canvas to be the "real thing."
      - Morelesshell 3y ago
        I know plenty of people, including me, who has no real knowledge about those humans. And sometimes not knowing is better like the example with Rammstein and row zero were some manager woman was asking other woman if they want to meet their rockstars. Btw. on a good electronic music set, knowing the arist is probably more a quality sign than a personal aspect. Knowing that i like what arist xy does, means i might like to keep an eye on future work because i like the style of it. Nonetheless, i do also think that fandom and doing real tours will still be the unique things for bands. There should always be a market for human content.
fauigerzigerk 3y ago
What I find most amazing is how the music changes at the start of the all caps section. Is this a completely new interpretation of what all caps means or could it have been learned from examples?
- fennecfoxy 3y ago
  Yeah I was definitely expecting some "IN YOUR HEEEEEEEAD, IN YOUR HEEEEE-EEEEEEAD, ZOO-OM-BEH!" when it got to all caps, so was a bit of a surprise. I wouldn't be surprised is all caps gets interpreted by it completely differently over multiple iterations. Experiment: https://suno.com/song/3338f5e5-b36d-4596-815d-cd2804c9a344 https://suno.com/song/3338f5e5-b36d-4596-815d-cd2804c9a344 (generated lyrics) Same lyrics all caps (chorus): https://suno.com/song/b176c658-9e9c-4a4b-b05e-6db291f415c9 https://suno.com/song/b176c658-9e9c-4a4b-b05e-6db291f415c9 didn't really do anything. After loads of different attempts trying to get something different: https://suno.com/song/398ef310-94b8-493a-ae61-22b790875689 https://suno.com/song/398ef310-94b8-493a-ae61-22b790875689 not really that great. Tbf I think it's because it's been trained on genres and maybe lyrics and lacks info on vocal styles and other stuff present in tracks during the training...
satisfice 3y ago
The song is not clever or funny. It's a rather tuneless recitation. The only reason anyone is posting it is because AI.
cornholio 3y ago
Here's my attempt at humor, there is something about his short sentences and speech delivery that makes them very suitable for ballads: https://suno.com/song/9f731225-8844-44f1-9325-4078cf53c729 https://suno.com/song/9f731225-8844-44f1-9325-4078cf53c729
- itronitron 3y ago
  Hmm, I think a rambling song form would have been a better fit.
  - cornholio 3y ago
    I beg to differ, here's the nu metal version: https://suno.com/song/edea40ab-c41f-46e4-908f-a511b9ab311e https://suno.com/song/edea40ab-c41f-46e4-908f-a511b9ab311e I almost feel compelled to take action against the corruption and crookedness.
    - itronitron 3y ago
      Yeah, that one is way too good.
    - helboi4 3y ago
      Okay that was hilarious
    - KptMarchewa 3y ago
      Mine similar try at different known speech: https://suno.com/song/01309f49-463f-4906-8399-f1f4fe3c6726/ https://suno.com/song/01309f49-463f-4906-8399-f1f4fe3c6726/
Cthulhu_ 3y ago
> give this tech another year or two and it will be better quality than your average radio song. TBH that's a pretty low bar; "radio" songs have been engineered and polished for a very long time now. I have no hard numbers but gut feeling says radio music only represents 1% of the music industry.
lordnacho 3y ago
Not sure whether I'm being completely serious, but it's already better than most EuroVision songs.

by epaga 3y ago

I have to say, I completely lost it at the whisper '(The "Software")' (0:18)... give this tech another year or two and it will be better quality than your average radio song.

mrfinn 3y ago

At the current rate of progress maybe it'll be months. I did a song for my company just to have fun around an event and the quality of the song was astounding, better than this one I think also using v3. I didn't even write the lyrics, I just described what I want in the prompt. Also I used one of poems I wrote as a teenager (not a lot of them) to create a song... the AI would notice the emphasis in the feelings of the lyrics, exactly in the same way I felt them, so it made pauses and chorus accordingly.

consp 3y ago
Pretty much all mainstream songs are of the same tempo (or slight variations), the same beat, the same scale, the same accents etc. I'm not surprised at all it can be regurgitated by an generative model. What I would like to see is what happens if you ask it to do in 5/8, 5/4 or any of the 7/* variants and see how that goes (I have no idea, might actually work). There are some examples in common music but not a lot especially for the more obscure ones. Unless they also trained it on a lot of international folk songs.
- abhpro 3y ago
  Almost none of what you said is true. Same scale? Tempo? Same beat? You think artists are just all using the same instrumental track? And yes it can do odd time signatures. It can do all sorts of genres like art pop, cinematic scores, ambient, math rock, avant garde, baroque, etc.
  - rootlocus 3y ago
    There's a surprising number of pop songs that use the same or close to the same chord progression.
svantana 3y ago
It reminds me of CGI in the 90's. Everyone was so astounded over the quality of jurassic park and toy story, the rate of improvements was mindboggling. Predictions were made that in a few years, actors and movie studios would be obsolete. But in the meantime, audiences started to notice artifacts that were not apparent to the untrained eye - CGI was actually ugly! And here we are 30 years later - actors are still on sets.
- n4r9 3y ago
  I had a similar reaction. We can still detect AI-generated images after years of progress; I think it's hasty to say they'll be indistinguishable any time soon.
  - int_19h 3y ago
    Thing is, they don't have to be indistinguishable. They just have to be "good enough" to be a major disruption to that market. And it's not a particularly high bar.
    - svantana 3y ago
      Sure, just as tv shows use obvious CGI for animals, explosions etc - it's cheaper and more practical. Particularly background music that needs to be licensed for ads and such is very likely to be disrupted in the next few years.
- fragmede 3y ago
  but the sets of today aren't the sets of the 90's. sets were giant green screens for a second, now they're giant TV's. they're still on set, sure, but things have changed.

cedws 3y ago

I don't think I can endure much more AI slop seeping its way into my life.

weregiraffe 3y ago
Art will realign to put more value on live performances. Don't worry, people who push AI art don't understand that art is a form of communication between humans. They might learn when the bubble pops and they are left with a trillion shiny "art" objects that are worth nothing, because nobody wants to look at them.
- Morelesshell 3y ago
  Depending on the popularity and your income, the experience of a artist life is really not that intim as you make it.
  - weregiraffe 3y ago
    The experience of knowing there's a human behind the message is valuable. People hated corporate propaganda "art" before AI was a thing, for the same reason it is not human.
    - erikbye 3y ago
      Depending on the AI tool in question, and the level of control it offers the human, there can definitely be a human behind the message, even if the final output is AI generated, the human had a creative vision and used the available tools to make it happen. It's no different than using Photoshop. Unless you only consider art done with oil and on a canvas to be the "real thing."
    - Morelesshell 3y ago
      I know plenty of people, including me, who has no real knowledge about those humans. And sometimes not knowing is better like the example with Rammstein and row zero were some manager woman was asking other woman if they want to meet their rockstars. Btw. on a good electronic music set, knowing the arist is probably more a quality sign than a personal aspect. Knowing that i like what arist xy does, means i might like to keep an eye on future work because i like the style of it. Nonetheless, i do also think that fandom and doing real tours will still be the unique things for bands. There should always be a market for human content.

fauigerzigerk 3y ago

What I find most amazing is how the music changes at the start of the all caps section. Is this a completely new interpretation of what all caps means or could it have been learned from examples?

fennecfoxy 3y ago
Yeah I was definitely expecting some "IN YOUR HEEEEEEEAD, IN YOUR HEEEEE-EEEEEEAD, ZOO-OM-BEH!" when it got to all caps, so was a bit of a surprise. I wouldn't be surprised is all caps gets interpreted by it completely differently over multiple iterations. Experiment: https://suno.com/song/3338f5e5-b36d-4596-815d-cd2804c9a344 https://suno.com/song/3338f5e5-b36d-4596-815d-cd2804c9a344 (generated lyrics) Same lyrics all caps (chorus): https://suno.com/song/b176c658-9e9c-4a4b-b05e-6db291f415c9 https://suno.com/song/b176c658-9e9c-4a4b-b05e-6db291f415c9 didn't really do anything. After loads of different attempts trying to get something different: https://suno.com/song/398ef310-94b8-493a-ae61-22b790875689 https://suno.com/song/398ef310-94b8-493a-ae61-22b790875689 not really that great. Tbf I think it's because it's been trained on genres and maybe lyrics and lacks info on vocal styles and other stuff present in tracks during the training...

satisfice 3y ago

The song is not clever or funny. It's a rather tuneless recitation. The only reason anyone is posting it is because AI.

cornholio 3y ago

Here's my attempt at humor, there is something about his short sentences and speech delivery that makes them very suitable for ballads: https://suno.com/song/9f731225-8844-44f1-9325-4078cf53c729 https://suno.com/song/9f731225-8844-44f1-9325-4078cf53c729

itronitron 3y ago
Hmm, I think a rambling song form would have been a better fit.
- cornholio 3y ago
  I beg to differ, here's the nu metal version: https://suno.com/song/edea40ab-c41f-46e4-908f-a511b9ab311e https://suno.com/song/edea40ab-c41f-46e4-908f-a511b9ab311e I almost feel compelled to take action against the corruption and crookedness.
  - itronitron 3y ago
    Yeah, that one is way too good.
  - helboi4 3y ago
    Okay that was hilarious
  - KptMarchewa 3y ago
    Mine similar try at different known speech: https://suno.com/song/01309f49-463f-4906-8399-f1f4fe3c6726/ https://suno.com/song/01309f49-463f-4906-8399-f1f4fe3c6726/

Cthulhu_ 3y ago

> give this tech another year or two and it will be better quality than your average radio song. TBH that's a pretty low bar; "radio" songs have been engineered and polished for a very long time now. I have no hard numbers but gut feeling says radio music only represents 1% of the music industry.

lordnacho 3y ago

Not sure whether I'm being completely serious, but it's already better than most EuroVision songs.