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Some nation state has some pretty big balls. The downside for being caught seems quite high.

by e40 3y ago

sitkack 3y ago
The only outcome that seems plausible is that all personal drones are grounded. For maybe ever.
- non-chalad 3y ago
  By you and what army? :D
  - infecto 3y ago
    Not saying it would happen but this would be a pretty trivial thing to ban and identify people using controllers.
    - beeeeerp 3y ago
      It’s trivial to build your own with some basic soldering skills. I’m curious to see how this shakes down over the coming decades. I built some non-compliant (also non-autonomous) 450g drones before the 250g weight limit. They’re only for acrobatics at treetop level or below. It’s kind of silly IMO that this style is required to have a transponder now. This is speaking as someone who flies planes. For the store bought ones that require no forethought - I am glad those are regulated.
throwiforgtnlzy 3y ago
Nation states, human/narco traffickers, or criminal-acting crazy people. 0.001% it was a stupid amateur. Either way, the source wasn't good. The prescription isn't more regulation but better defenses and integration of on-the-ground civ&mil police work.
somenameforme 3y ago
The article is misleading or misinformed. There are numerous cheap consumer drones that can go miles high. The hardware is more than capable of it - it's just the firmware that's crippled, but it can be modded. You can also just make them quite easily. Here's [1] a video of a guy with a homemade drone that hit a height > 40k feet, along with links to buy the exact parts. It's almost certainly just people trolling, because it's somewhat predictably turning into the Great Balloon War of 2023, part 2. [1] - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6QL0VjqYgI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6QL0VjqYgI
JohnBooty 3y ago
I'm torn on this. Would a nation state be brazen enough to risk a state of war with the US over this? But on the other hand, if an adversary was brazen enough to try that, would the US admit it and therefore effectively admit it has something close to zero control over its own airspace when it comes to drones? Maybe that's what this theoretical adversary is banking on.

Some nation state has some pretty big balls. The downside for being caught seems quite high.

by e40 3y ago

Some nation state has some pretty big balls. The downside for being caught seems quite high.

sitkack 3y ago

The only outcome that seems plausible is that all personal drones are grounded. For maybe ever.

non-chalad 3y ago
By you and what army? :D
- infecto 3y ago
  Not saying it would happen but this would be a pretty trivial thing to ban and identify people using controllers.
  - beeeeerp 3y ago
    It’s trivial to build your own with some basic soldering skills. I’m curious to see how this shakes down over the coming decades. I built some non-compliant (also non-autonomous) 450g drones before the 250g weight limit. They’re only for acrobatics at treetop level or below. It’s kind of silly IMO that this style is required to have a transponder now. This is speaking as someone who flies planes. For the store bought ones that require no forethought - I am glad those are regulated.

throwiforgtnlzy 3y ago

Nation states, human/narco traffickers, or criminal-acting crazy people. 0.001% it was a stupid amateur. Either way, the source wasn't good. The prescription isn't more regulation but better defenses and integration of on-the-ground civ&mil police work.

somenameforme 3y ago

The article is misleading or misinformed. There are numerous cheap consumer drones that can go miles high. The hardware is more than capable of it - it's just the firmware that's crippled, but it can be modded. You can also just make them quite easily. Here's [1] a video of a guy with a homemade drone that hit a height > 40k feet, along with links to buy the exact parts. It's almost certainly just people trolling, because it's somewhat predictably turning into the Great Balloon War of 2023, part 2. [1] - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6QL0VjqYgI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6QL0VjqYgI

JohnBooty 3y ago

I'm torn on this. Would a nation state be brazen enough to risk a state of war with the US over this? But on the other hand, if an adversary was brazen enough to try that, would the US admit it and therefore effectively admit it has something close to zero control over its own airspace when it comes to drones? Maybe that's what this theoretical adversary is banking on.