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Yesterday after iOS upgrade i was pleasantly surprised by popup asking me what browser i would like to use. I picked Safari anyways, but it felt good. Thank you

Yesterday after iOS upgrade i was pleasantly surprised by popup asking me what browser i would like to use. I picked Safari anyways, but it felt good. Thank you EU. I know now that if i change my mind i can go to settings and pick any other browser. And not thank you Apple because this is not the case in non EU countries and not the case for iPad, because EU did not classified ipads same way as iphones and Apple Inc took advantage of this instead of unifying user experience.

frizlab 3y ago
Personally I was pissed by another popup I do not want. To each his own.
- alibarber 3y ago
  We’ve probably become numb to it thanks to cookie warnings. Whatever the intentions of that law where, and however against the spirit of it the companies implementing the ‘we care about your privacy’ popover whilst offering the option to opt out of data sharing with their 500 ‘partners’ - the law has failed in this regard. Perhaps even all these sites are breaking said law, in which case I am sure enforcement will be swift and firm.
  - vincnetas 3y ago
    I would not compare it to cookie popup, as this is a question that you get after starting using a phone. So basically one time. For new user it looks just like regular startup sequence after unboxing fresh device. Of course if i was evil corporate drone and would like to piss of EU and had means for that, i would show this pop up to choose browser regularly and unexpectedly to piss off end users and then blame it on EU that they have "forced" to do this.
- pixxel 3y ago
  Pissed. Let’s be honest: you dismissed the one-time useful question and instantly forgot about it.
  - deleted 3y ago
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- rekoil 3y ago
  Mate, it's one popup shown one time, to inform those not as technically competent as you and I that they can in fact use another browser if they want to...
  - ben_w 3y ago
    I'm fine with well-placed and important popups, yet I can appreciate the point: Too many annoying popups have trained me to, by default, react to popups as I react to flies or mosquitos. As I can't tell which category a popup is in before I've read it, this makes me extra angry about the time-wasters.
    - vincnetas 3y ago
      This popup is shown immediately after "Hello" message after updating your iphone. Together with other popups asking for agreement to collect app usage stats and other apple related questions. I hear no one complaining or being pissed off about these other questions after first phone use.
      - JimDabell 3y ago
        I’ve heard loads of people complain about them. Asking for Siri to be switched on, and asking to sign into your iCloud account are the two biggest ones. Personally, I find the multi-page terms and conditions to be the worst part. Nobody reads them and it would be considered entirely unacceptable UX if people really did read them. Their entire purpose is to hold people to terms they aren’t aware of.
        rcbdev 3y ago
        Yes but, at least in the EU, there are strong consumer protections around what can and cannot be considered "usual" in TaC texts - the courts already gave credence to the idea that while people may not sensibly read the terms in full, there is an expectation that the contents cannot be too whacky when dealing with B2C such as apple.
zoobab 3y ago
Can you remove Safari?
wdb 3y ago
It's shame that you don't get the popup as a EU citizen when outside the EU
- stingraycharles 3y ago
  Oh, so that’s the reason I didn’t get it. And let me guess, you also don’t get the pop up as a non-EU citizen inside the EU.
  - zarzavat 3y ago
    Usually laws apply of the place that you are in, regardless of whether you are a citizen or not.
    - Moldoteck 3y ago
      afaik gdpr works in such a way that even if you are eu citizen in the us, you still benefit from this law
    - stingraycharles 3y ago
      Yes but my iCloud account is tied to my home country in the EU, I figured they would be using that as a reference.
  - CalRobert 3y ago
    I don't think Apple has citizenship status of every user in EU. At least, my experiences didn't change when I was naturalised and gained EU citizenship.
    - rcbdev 3y ago
      Then either they should figure out a legal way to comply or leave their products out of the union.
      - prmoustache 3y ago

frizlab 3y ago

Personally I was pissed by another popup I do not want. To each his own.

alibarber 3y ago
We’ve probably become numb to it thanks to cookie warnings. Whatever the intentions of that law where, and however against the spirit of it the companies implementing the ‘we care about your privacy’ popover whilst offering the option to opt out of data sharing with their 500 ‘partners’ - the law has failed in this regard. Perhaps even all these sites are breaking said law, in which case I am sure enforcement will be swift and firm.
- vincnetas 3y ago
  I would not compare it to cookie popup, as this is a question that you get after starting using a phone. So basically one time. For new user it looks just like regular startup sequence after unboxing fresh device. Of course if i was evil corporate drone and would like to piss of EU and had means for that, i would show this pop up to choose browser regularly and unexpectedly to piss off end users and then blame it on EU that they have "forced" to do this.
pixxel 3y ago
Pissed. Let’s be honest: you dismissed the one-time useful question and instantly forgot about it.
- deleted 3y ago
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rekoil 3y ago
Mate, it's one popup shown one time, to inform those not as technically competent as you and I that they can in fact use another browser if they want to...
- ben_w 3y ago
  I'm fine with well-placed and important popups, yet I can appreciate the point: Too many annoying popups have trained me to, by default, react to popups as I react to flies or mosquitos. As I can't tell which category a popup is in before I've read it, this makes me extra angry about the time-wasters.
  - vincnetas 3y ago
    This popup is shown immediately after "Hello" message after updating your iphone. Together with other popups asking for agreement to collect app usage stats and other apple related questions. I hear no one complaining or being pissed off about these other questions after first phone use.
    - JimDabell 3y ago
      I’ve heard loads of people complain about them. Asking for Siri to be switched on, and asking to sign into your iCloud account are the two biggest ones. Personally, I find the multi-page terms and conditions to be the worst part. Nobody reads them and it would be considered entirely unacceptable UX if people really did read them. Their entire purpose is to hold people to terms they aren’t aware of.
      - rcbdev 3y ago
        Yes but, at least in the EU, there are strong consumer protections around what can and cannot be considered "usual" in TaC texts - the courts already gave credence to the idea that while people may not sensibly read the terms in full, there is an expectation that the contents cannot be too whacky when dealing with B2C such as apple.

zoobab 3y ago

Can you remove Safari?

wdb 3y ago

It's shame that you don't get the popup as a EU citizen when outside the EU

stingraycharles 3y ago
Oh, so that’s the reason I didn’t get it. And let me guess, you also don’t get the pop up as a non-EU citizen inside the EU.
- zarzavat 3y ago
  Usually laws apply of the place that you are in, regardless of whether you are a citizen or not.
  - Moldoteck 3y ago
    afaik gdpr works in such a way that even if you are eu citizen in the us, you still benefit from this law
  - stingraycharles 3y ago
    Yes but my iCloud account is tied to my home country in the EU, I figured they would be using that as a reference.
- CalRobert 3y ago
  I don't think Apple has citizenship status of every user in EU. At least, my experiences didn't change when I was naturalised and gained EU citizenship.
  - rcbdev 3y ago
    Then either they should figure out a legal way to comply or leave their products out of the union.
    - prmoustache 3y ago