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I have no proposals for what should happen, but I have the growing feeling that browser UIs need a significant revamp these days. The last time I remember brows

I have no proposals for what should happen, but I have the growing feeling that browser UIs need a significant revamp these days. The last time I remember browser workflows changing significantly was honestly tabs in Firefox. The way people use browsers now is radically different to then in many ways, PWAs werent even really a thing. I totally missed that panorama feature mentioned in the article, it looks kinda nice, but mouse heavy. Wonder how they'll implement tab groups in the future.

ErikBjare 3y ago
Firefox did not introduce tabs. Opera and others had it before. There's a great Wikipedia article about the history of tabs: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tab_%28interface%29 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tab_%28interface%29
- SuperNinKenDo 3y ago
  You're quite right. Thanks for the reminder, I confess I DID forget about that. That being said, I think it was Firefox introducing them that caused the shift in the way people used a browser. I remember people asking me to set up Firefox because IE didn't have tabs. Nobody ever asked me to set Opera up for me. But yes, absolutely credit where credit is due.
sublinear 3y ago
Form follows function in the best designs. There are two ideas poorly implemented in all browsers that I wish were fixed. The first is restoring windows/tabs after a restart. This is not just janky when it refreshes all the pages when you focus a tab, but the browser doesn't even remember what workspace it was in and vomits all windows out onto the current workspace. The second is bookmarks. If you think about it for a while it seems absurd that there is any apparent difference to the user between their history, bookmarks, and currently open tabs. Both of these could be solved with some kind of hibernation state for a session. I don't want the pages to reload just because I restarted the machine or browser. I don't want to dig through history to find a window I just had open. I don't want to bookmark pages I frequently visit. This is especially painful on a work machine since these should be very long sessions that can span a year or more. In the real world you have to restart the browser or machine every other week for updates.
- squigz 3y ago
  > The first is restoring windows/tabs after a restart. This is not just janky when it refreshes all the pages when you focus a tab, but the browser doesn't even remember what workspace it was in and vomits all windows out onto the current workspace. This isn't at all my experience anymore. Session restoration in Firefox is pretty much seamless, and for the very rare edge-cases where the native stuff isn't sufficient, Tab Session Manager works for me.
- skeledrew 3y ago
  I haven't restarted my machine in months, and it's mostly up to date (last I ran it was couple weeks ago) :). I find it absurd that some OSes still need a restart to apply non-kernel updates.

ErikBjare 3y ago

Firefox did not introduce tabs. Opera and others had it before. There's a great Wikipedia article about the history of tabs: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tab_%28interface%29 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tab_%28interface%29

SuperNinKenDo 3y ago
You're quite right. Thanks for the reminder, I confess I DID forget about that. That being said, I think it was Firefox introducing them that caused the shift in the way people used a browser. I remember people asking me to set up Firefox because IE didn't have tabs. Nobody ever asked me to set Opera up for me. But yes, absolutely credit where credit is due.

sublinear 3y ago

Form follows function in the best designs. There are two ideas poorly implemented in all browsers that I wish were fixed. The first is restoring windows/tabs after a restart. This is not just janky when it refreshes all the pages when you focus a tab, but the browser doesn't even remember what workspace it was in and vomits all windows out onto the current workspace. The second is bookmarks. If you think about it for a while it seems absurd that there is any apparent difference to the user between their history, bookmarks, and currently open tabs. Both of these could be solved with some kind of hibernation state for a session. I don't want the pages to reload just because I restarted the machine or browser. I don't want to dig through history to find a window I just had open. I don't want to bookmark pages I frequently visit. This is especially painful on a work machine since these should be very long sessions that can span a year or more. In the real world you have to restart the browser or machine every other week for updates.

squigz 3y ago
> The first is restoring windows/tabs after a restart. This is not just janky when it refreshes all the pages when you focus a tab, but the browser doesn't even remember what workspace it was in and vomits all windows out onto the current workspace. This isn't at all my experience anymore. Session restoration in Firefox is pretty much seamless, and for the very rare edge-cases where the native stuff isn't sufficient, Tab Session Manager works for me.
skeledrew 3y ago
I haven't restarted my machine in months, and it's mostly up to date (last I ran it was couple weeks ago) :). I find it absurd that some OSes still need a restart to apply non-kernel updates.