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The Alice and Bob After Dinner Speech (1984)
- dang 3y agoRelated. Others? The Alice and Bob After Dinner Speech (1984) - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16820893 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16820893 - April 2018 (23 comments) The Alice and Bob After Dinner Speech (1984) - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12173482 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12173482 - July 2016 (18 comments) The Alice and Bob After Dinner Speech (1984) - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8455489 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8455489 - Oct 2014 (10 comments) The Alice and Bob After Dinner Speech (1984) - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1372371 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1372371 - May 2010 (3 comments)
- OneLeggedCat 3y agoEvery time I see "Alice and Bob" I think of Alice and Bill's Lab of Doom and Pepsi Cola.
- joezydeco 3y agoBut, do Alice and Bob know Mel?
- bigiain 3y agoMallory, surely?
- 01HNNWZ0MV43FF 3y agohttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Story_of_Mel https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Story_of_Mel
- joezydeco 3y agoYou should totally post that.
- ColinWright 3y agoIt's been posted many, many, many times. https://hn.algolia.com/?q=story+of+mel https://hn.algolia.com/?q=story+of+mel
- joezydeco 3y ago;-)
- bigiain 3y agoYeah. But in the context of Alice and Bob I consider this to be more relevant: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alice_and_Bob https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alice_and_Bob
- sam_goody 3y agoAnd here I thought that Bruce Shneier started the Alice and Bob stuff ;/ There is another alphabet he skipped (here are the parts I remember offhand): A as in I or R, C as in Q or Zar or Chi, E as in I or L or F, G as in Nu, H as in U or Our, K as in Nife, M as in Nemonic, P as in Sycho or Terodactyl, S as in C or Shoe, W as in Y or Ry, X as in Zylophone, Y as in U
- not2b 3y agoLooks like we have R, S, and A of RSA to thank. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alice_and_Bob https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alice_and_Bob
- bryanrasmussen 3y agoI always figured it came from Bob & Carol & Ted & Alice https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_%26_Carol_%26_Ted_%26_Alice https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_%26_Carol_%26_Ted_%26_Alic... and that by referencing Bob & Alice one got an extra frisson because of "Swapping partners, Bob and Alice kiss fervently, as do Ted and Carol..." - that is to say Bob (the free love liberal man) and Alice (the conservative commitment woman) are put together in all these anecdotes because it is naughty and naughtiness adds to the amusement. After a while of course nobody remembered the naughty movie and people just used Bob & Alice because those were the names one used for this kind of thing.
- ajmurmann 3y agoI always assumed it was just giving names to the letters A, B and C, especially since a French cryptographer in a workshop told me that they use Amelie, Bernarde and Carole in French classes.
- cout 3y agoI thought it was something to do with quantum entanglement, since Alice and Bob are commonly used to explain Bell's theorem. Chris Ferrie even uses them in his book Quantum Entanglement for Babies. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bell%27s_theorem https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bell%27s_theorem
- AlbertCory 3y agoAs someone whose real name actually IS "Bob" I've always been hugely proud to have played an integral part in so many wonderful things. Alice just grumbles about it, though.
- archgoon 3y agoThis was last discussed 6 years ago. The pocket calculator can now finally accomplish all described tasks.
- jll29 3y agoGreat speech, the funnier the more you already know about information theory and cryptography; but the last part with the pocket calculator seems a break of topic, I would have left that out.
- rbanffy 3y ago“The Secret Adventures of Alice and Bob” would be an excellent sitcom.
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- barryrandall 3y agoAdding "considering all alice and bob scenarios" to LLM prompts is surprisingly useful.
- svilen_dobrev 3y agoprobably unrelated observation.. > Nothing else is like information. Information is very peculiar stuff. and the whole software circus is dealing with.. information. Moving, storing, creating, destroying. A kind of commodity, like (but also unlike) energy and water, oil and money. And which turned the software into similar commodity. Hence this whole software.. domain.. has become extremely Loaded.. in political and ethical ways. dirty? maybe. But definitely not anymore refreshing
- 57FkMytWjyFu 3y agoAfrica isn't a country, but Algeria is.