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Can you give a source that backs up your claim that the banned person here has shared any kind of hate.
by ChocolateGod 3y ago
Can you give a source that backs up your claim that the banned person here has shared any kind of hate.
- bitwize 3y ago[flagged]
- ChocolateGod 3y agoThat's immature and unthoughtful behaviour, but I fail to see "hate" or continued spreading of "hate", why a Wayland compositor uses Discord as a community forum given Discord is the gutter when it comes to online converse , who knows. Keyword in your message is "may".
- bitwize 3y agoDiscord is much, much more convenient than the historic alternatives like IRC or email. If you want a project to grow you have to meet prospective developers where they are; and in the 2020s that's X (Twitter), Mastodon, and Discord. Discord communities can be moderated to be safe and friendly... but Vaxry couldn't be arsed to do so because he's "based". As to whether Vaxry was "really" promulgating hate... Refusing to acknowledge and respect a person's gender identity is transphobic. Condoning this behavior (and victim-blaming the person who called it out) is transphobic. When trans people and trans allies have positions of authority in an open-source community, public transphobes will get issued preemptive bans for the health of the community and the project. It is altogether fitting and proper that this be done. Oh, and the fact that Vaxry slagged off Lyude publicly in his blog for good-faith enforcement of the code of conduct (as she has the authority and duty to do) just means that FreeDesktop would ban him again harder if they could.
- PlutoIsAPlanet 3y ago> Oh, and the fact that Vaxry slagged off Lyude publicly in his blog for good-faith enforcement of the code of conduct From what I see they both slagged each other. Again though, I'm asking for where's the spreading of hate.
- bitwize 3y ago[flagged]
- neonsunset 3y agoThis email is a very good demonstration on why you don't negotiate with terrorists or politburo representatives. They have gotten where they are exactly because they enjoy abusing the power given to them. Pleading your case before them is to just give them amusement. They will spit on the work you carefully worked on throughout the years and celebrate that. Thus, you don't negotiate. Instead, you go to their higher-ups and highlight that the company's resources are being misappropriated for petty squabbles and personal tilting at windmills. Though sadly nowadays it has gotten way more difficult, because a greater portion of bureaucratic, community and HR positions in the companies are captured, so when the damage is noticed, it may already be too late.
- pests 3y ago[flagged]
- bitwize 3y agoNo. We are at the level of holding people accountable for their BEHAVIOR. Something that historically hasn't been done, resulting in a chilling effect on contributions from decent people, especially those from marginalized groups. That's changing. You can fulminate about trans people all you like in the quiet of your own home, but if you harass or intimidate them in a publicly viewable way, there will be consequences. And when a code of conduct board member for a project approaches you and tells you you need to do better, any response other than "Yes, sir/ma'am/other, I will do better" is grounds for questioning whether you should be permitted to contribute further to the project.
- midnight2 3y ago[flagged]
- DarkByte8 3y ago> When trans people and trans allies have positions of authority in an open-source community, public transphobes will get issued preemptive bans for the health of the community and the project. It is altogether fitting and proper that this be done. It sounds like abuse of power
- zilti 3y ago[flagged]
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- sickofparadox 3y ago[flagged]
- skyyler 3y agoTransgender contributors to open source existed before you were born and will continue to exist after you die. Just to be clear.
- luyu_wu 3y agoVaxry has since responded to this and apologized numerous times. As he states many times in his blogposts, he ais apologetic for this incident I, like him, fail to see why this keeps on being brung up. The server and him have changed drastically, it's not very fair to judge a changed person on their past actions.
- drewdevault 3y ago[flagged]
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- realhumanbean 3y ago[flagged]
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- zilti 3y ago[flagged]
- mplewis 3y agoWhat do you find annoying about these people?
- shrimp_emoji 3y agoIf you have to even list your pronouns, you do care too much about them. It'll be wild to look back on all this when the spell finally breaks. Do you remember that one time people lost their shit over pronouns?
- throwaway_62022 3y agoSo, whatever is posted publicly on "polite" forums about what was going on Hyprland discord is tip of the iceberg. See for yourself - https://imgur.com/a/6Po3Paq https://imgur.com/a/6Po3Paq Changing someone's pronouns without their permissions seems like least of their offenses. Hyprland discord appears to be a cesspool and one fermented by Vaxry himself, trans hate or otherwise. Now some people are saying - they have improved (and others are saying they have not). But reading his blog posts and seeing current status, I am not optimistic. I mean you can't make this stuff up. Why use a opensource discord community for sharing porn? (which likely have minors).
- jadamson 3y agoWhat am I supposed to be outraged about in the third screenshot? His disrespect for memory safety?
- immibis 3y ago"rust is c++ for people with no ballz"
- shrimp_emoji 3y agoIt's figurative ballz. See: https://youtu.be/6i7a0cwyDDw https://youtu.be/6i7a0cwyDDw
- immibis 3y agoStart by reading here: https://drewdevault.com/2024/04/09/2024-04-09-FDO-conduct-enforcement.html https://drewdevault.com/2024/04/09/2024-04-09-FDO-conduct-en... Remember to follow hyperlinks. They're there for a reason.