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This incident isn't related to Boeing .. at all ... but when Airbus do it (which you assure it happens more frequently) it's related to whom exactly, and why di

by s_dev 2y ago

This incident isn't related to Boeing .. at all ... but when Airbus do it (which you assure it happens more frequently) it's related to whom exactly, and why did Airbus fix it if it wasn't related to them (modified the door latch)?

cschmatzler 2y ago
Whoever did not latch the door properly after doing maintenance checks. Which is either a mechanic at the airline itself or someone at a maintenance hub that is contracted by the airline. Not the job of the manufacturer whatsoever.
- s_dev 2y ago
  So why did Airbus modify the door latch?
  - cschmatzler 2y ago
    They were required to by an airworthiness directive. https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2017/06/29/2017-13409/airworthiness-directives-airbus-airplanes https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2017/06/29/2017-13...
  - pfannkuchen 2y ago
    To make the plane more user friendly?
- AdamN 2y ago
  The point s_dev is trying to make is that the designer can (and should) design things so that the mechanic "doesn't have to think". Seems like Airbus has evolved their design accordingly.
  - GerryB 2y ago
    The solution is actually quite elegant: a long tagged key required to open the door which remains in the lock until it's closed again. https://safetyfirst.airbus.com/preventing-fan-cowl-door-loss/ https://safetyfirst.airbus.com/preventing-fan-cowl-door-loss...
filleduchaos 2y ago
Worth noting that only a few weeks ago an Airbus A330 had a very similar engine-panel-coming-off issue, which I'm 99.9% sure you hadn't heard about at all until I pointed it out to you - unlike this incident, which will have hundreds of articles and blog posts written about it. I'd like everyone here to consider just how much they are letting [social] media do their thinking for them. (The incident I'm referring to: https://avherald.com/h?article=5169614a&opt=0 https://avherald.com/h?article=5169614a&opt=0)
- s_dev 2y ago
  The user I'm replying to is making contradictory statements -- I'm asking questions to try and illustrate the contradiction. If this issue is unrelated to Boeing it's also unrelated to Airbus.
  - CapcomGo 2y ago
    It's clearly not a manufacturer issue at all. This is just part of the normal incidents that happen in air travel that the public is normally not aware of.
    - s_dev 2y ago
      That's fine then just don't blame Airbus for doing it even worse since you've already established the manufacturer isn't responsible. That's the original context.

by s_dev 2y ago

cschmatzler 2y ago

Whoever did not latch the door properly after doing maintenance checks. Which is either a mechanic at the airline itself or someone at a maintenance hub that is contracted by the airline. Not the job of the manufacturer whatsoever.

s_dev 2y ago
So why did Airbus modify the door latch?
- cschmatzler 2y ago
  They were required to by an airworthiness directive. https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2017/06/29/2017-13409/airworthiness-directives-airbus-airplanes https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2017/06/29/2017-13...
- pfannkuchen 2y ago
  To make the plane more user friendly?
AdamN 2y ago
The point s_dev is trying to make is that the designer can (and should) design things so that the mechanic "doesn't have to think". Seems like Airbus has evolved their design accordingly.
- GerryB 2y ago
  The solution is actually quite elegant: a long tagged key required to open the door which remains in the lock until it's closed again. https://safetyfirst.airbus.com/preventing-fan-cowl-door-loss/ https://safetyfirst.airbus.com/preventing-fan-cowl-door-loss...

filleduchaos 2y ago

Worth noting that only a few weeks ago an Airbus A330 had a very similar engine-panel-coming-off issue, which I'm 99.9% sure you hadn't heard about at all until I pointed it out to you - unlike this incident, which will have hundreds of articles and blog posts written about it. I'd like everyone here to consider just how much they are letting [social] media do their thinking for them. (The incident I'm referring to: https://avherald.com/h?article=5169614a&opt=0 https://avherald.com/h?article=5169614a&opt=0)

s_dev 2y ago
The user I'm replying to is making contradictory statements -- I'm asking questions to try and illustrate the contradiction. If this issue is unrelated to Boeing it's also unrelated to Airbus.
- CapcomGo 2y ago
  It's clearly not a manufacturer issue at all. This is just part of the normal incidents that happen in air travel that the public is normally not aware of.
  - s_dev 2y ago
    That's fine then just don't blame Airbus for doing it even worse since you've already established the manufacturer isn't responsible. That's the original context.