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Have you seen how much those services charge for even just 10tb of storage? It's insane.

ajross 3y ago
Looks like $15 a month at Dropbox (it's true that the other providers don't count that high[1] in their standard rates, so you end up having to do it as more expensive overage). Seems like a bargain for not getting backdoored to me. But then I did say it was an unpopular opinion. [1] I do chuckle at the use of "just 10tb". Obviously the real issue here is that these NAS boxes are deployed in service of movie and porn collections that people don't want to leave with a third party. But my point was about reliability and security, not legality or propriety.
- beeboobaa3 3y ago
  From what I can tell dropbox will charge you E14.50*3=43.5/month (Business plan with a minimum of 3 users) or E522/year for 9TB, but maybe I'm missing something in their pricing? > I do chuckle at the use of "just 10tb" It's 2024. 2TB SSDs can be bought cheaply, and so can 16TB HDDs.
  - IshKebab 3y ago
    Yeah but the fact that you can buy a 10TB disk doesn't mean it's normal to need to store 10TB of data. I think bandwidth is a bigger issue with cloud storage. Most people have terrible upload bandwidth.
    - beeboobaa3 3y ago
      It's not normal for you.
      - IshKebab 3y ago
        It's not normal full stop. A tiny fraction of people might need it but it's definitely not the norm.
        beeboobaa3 3y ago
        Shrug. Neither is posting on HN or caring about other people their data retention preferences.
    - BenjiWiebe 3y ago
      My upload bandwidth is 3Mbps. My NAS is an old computer running Linux and samba. Due to the bandwidth issue cloud is a complete non-starter.
- aborsy 3y ago
  Dropbox speed is low. Even in Dropbox plus, ordinary features are behind paywall. Not interesting. Also, it’s not a good idea to store TBs of personal information on someone else’s computer or potentially the internet.
- arp242 3y ago
  It shows "€12/user/month" for Business (9TB), but that's with a 3 user minimum, so €36/month. The "Essentials" package for individuals is €16.58/month, but has only 3TB of storage. I don't know what it would cost to add extra storage for that (doesn't show a price), but I would be surprised if it was less than €25/month, and wouldn't be surprised if it was quite a bit more than that.

Looks like $15 a month at Dropbox (it's true that the other providers don't count that high[1] in their standard rates, so you end up having to do it as more expensive overage). Seems like a bargain for not getting backdoored to me. But then I did say it was an unpopular opinion. [1] I do chuckle at the use of "just 10tb". Obviously the real issue here is that these NAS boxes are deployed in service of movie and porn collections that people don't want to leave with a third party. But my point was about reliability and security, not legality or propriety.

beeboobaa3 3y ago
From what I can tell dropbox will charge you E14.50*3=43.5/month (Business plan with a minimum of 3 users) or E522/year for 9TB, but maybe I'm missing something in their pricing? > I do chuckle at the use of "just 10tb" It's 2024. 2TB SSDs can be bought cheaply, and so can 16TB HDDs.
- IshKebab 3y ago
  Yeah but the fact that you can buy a 10TB disk doesn't mean it's normal to need to store 10TB of data. I think bandwidth is a bigger issue with cloud storage. Most people have terrible upload bandwidth.
  - beeboobaa3 3y ago
    It's not normal for you.
    - IshKebab 3y ago
      It's not normal full stop. A tiny fraction of people might need it but it's definitely not the norm.
      - beeboobaa3 3y ago
        Shrug. Neither is posting on HN or caring about other people their data retention preferences.
  - BenjiWiebe 3y ago
    My upload bandwidth is 3Mbps. My NAS is an old computer running Linux and samba. Due to the bandwidth issue cloud is a complete non-starter.
aborsy 3y ago
Dropbox speed is low. Even in Dropbox plus, ordinary features are behind paywall. Not interesting. Also, it’s not a good idea to store TBs of personal information on someone else’s computer or potentially the internet.
arp242 3y ago
It shows "€12/user/month" for Business (9TB), but that's with a 3 user minimum, so €36/month. The "Essentials" package for individuals is €16.58/month, but has only 3TB of storage. I don't know what it would cost to add extra storage for that (doesn't show a price), but I would be surprised if it was less than €25/month, and wouldn't be surprised if it was quite a bit more than that.