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For a person that has read the books a couple of times (and loved the Tencent show) the Netflix version is so shallow and lacking nuance that I barely finished

by _hao 3y ago

For a person that has read the books a couple of times (and loved the Tencent show) the Netflix version is so shallow and lacking nuance that I barely finished it. Benioff and Weiss have picked some "wow" moments from the book without any understanding of it or the emotional and existential weight of it all. As an adaption it is extremely poor. There are some good actors in it, but they are all wasted and not given enough to shine. Pacing was extremely poor. Another thing that made an impression of me was the quality of the dialogue. It's the most dumbed possible version you could think of. Ye Wenjie saying "Time is a motherfucker" was such a disservice to such a complex character from the book/Tencent show that I couldn't believe it when I heard it. If you want something that stirs your mind and makes you truly ponder, especially if you're science/engineering/philosophy inclined, read the books and/or watch the Tencent show (very slow burn, but it's worth it because it's made with love and let's you think, although I do have some critiques on it as well). As an aside I'd like to say that the whole trilogy is fundamentally not a product of Western thought. You need some context on Chinese history and culture to truly appreciate it. I think many people in the West don't know enough about China and society there to fully grasp the nuance in most of it.

shrimp_emoji 3y ago
On a much more superficial note, you gotta love the casting decisions too. Make the Chinese people ultra trendy diverse and make the terminal cancer patient whose brain is being scooped out and shipped to the aliens the only white guy. ;D
- _hao 3y ago
  Honestly, I think the actor who played Will (him being Yun Tianming) was the closest to his book counterpart as a character. He was the best part of the show for me. For example, I'm sure Benedict Wong can play Da Shi because he's a very good actor, but in this show the character is utterly ruined. He's not the glue or the do-it-all no bullshit policeman that he's supposed to be. Yu Hewei (Da Shi from the Tencent show) was so good in that role that I honestly cannot compare him at all. It's night and day. Also the Netflix show suffers a lot for being only 8 episodes. I think being 12-13 would've worked much better and left a bit more for the plot to breathe, but nope. We gotta jump because we're in a hurry somehow.
  - M95D 3y ago
    > Also the Netflix show suffers a lot for being only 8 episodes. And they wasted most of that with cancer drama instead of aliens-are-coming drama.
  - shrimp_emoji 2y ago
    Haha. I actually thought Da Shi was pretty spot on, but maybe I was spellbound by the fact that they cast the same exact actor for him that I cast in my head when I read the books! :D Gruff Chinese detective guy? It had to be the detective guy from Contagion.
tappaseater 3y ago
It is poorly written, with some atrocious dialog. I watched it all because the story intrigued me, but all I kept thinking was, "The last season of GoT was shit for THIS?"
GoodJokes 3y ago
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by _hao 3y ago

shrimp_emoji 3y ago

On a much more superficial note, you gotta love the casting decisions too. Make the Chinese people ultra trendy diverse and make the terminal cancer patient whose brain is being scooped out and shipped to the aliens the only white guy. ;D

_hao 3y ago
Honestly, I think the actor who played Will (him being Yun Tianming) was the closest to his book counterpart as a character. He was the best part of the show for me. For example, I'm sure Benedict Wong can play Da Shi because he's a very good actor, but in this show the character is utterly ruined. He's not the glue or the do-it-all no bullshit policeman that he's supposed to be. Yu Hewei (Da Shi from the Tencent show) was so good in that role that I honestly cannot compare him at all. It's night and day. Also the Netflix show suffers a lot for being only 8 episodes. I think being 12-13 would've worked much better and left a bit more for the plot to breathe, but nope. We gotta jump because we're in a hurry somehow.
- M95D 3y ago
  > Also the Netflix show suffers a lot for being only 8 episodes. And they wasted most of that with cancer drama instead of aliens-are-coming drama.
- shrimp_emoji 2y ago
  Haha. I actually thought Da Shi was pretty spot on, but maybe I was spellbound by the fact that they cast the same exact actor for him that I cast in my head when I read the books! :D Gruff Chinese detective guy? It had to be the detective guy from Contagion.

tappaseater 3y ago

It is poorly written, with some atrocious dialog. I watched it all because the story intrigued me, but all I kept thinking was, "The last season of GoT was shit for THIS?"

GoodJokes 3y ago

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