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Can I just point out the hilarious disparity of punishment in this statement: >Matthew David Keirans, 58, was convicted of one count of false statement to a Na

Can I just point out the hilarious disparity of punishment in this statement: >Matthew David Keirans, 58, was convicted of one count of false statement to a National Credit Union Administration insured institution — punishable by up to 30 years in federal prison — and one count of aggravated identity theft — punishable by up to two years in federal prison.

n2d4 3y ago
That's because "aggravated identity theft" can never be the only crime you are convicted for. It is always dependent on another felony. The identity theft just adds two years on-top of whatever the other crime would've gotten you. Here, of course the two extra years don't matter, but if you commit identity theft to steal your grandma's candies, I don't think you should be getting 30 years in prison. Relevant: https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1028A https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1028A
Anotheroneagain 3y ago
I suppose it may have something to do with the guy becoming homeless, and they don't want to show the whole extent of the horrors that they made real guy go through.
Hnrobert42 3y ago
I suppose the disparity is as a result in the difference of aggrieved party. Steal from a bank, off with your head. Steal from a person. Meh.
- givemeethekeys 3y ago
  You’re allowed to scam whomever you want except for the wealthy or connected.
elteto 3y ago
> He was indicted Dec. 12, on five counts of false statement to a National Credit Union Administration insured institution and two counts of aggravated identity theft. It's actually 6 years max per false statement charge, so in total 30 years.
- lolinder 3y ago
  Literally the next sentence after what you quoted: > He pleaded guilty Monday to one count of each charge, and the other counts were dropped. He was indicted for five counts and two, but that just means that's what the prosecution was going to try to get him for. He pled guilty to one of each, presumably to avoid an even harsher possible sentence.
  - qingcharles 3y ago
    Standard plea deal is usually pleading out to one or two charges from a whole host of shit that the prosecutor threw at the wall, but probably couldn't get a conviction on at trial.
- ahepp 3y ago
  I don't believe that's correct? https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1006 https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1006 I believe this may be the same law referred to as "the headshot" in HBO's The Wire? The creator of the show discusses it further online: https://davidsimon.com/kwame-brown-another-federal-case-another-head-shot/ https://davidsimon.com/kwame-brown-another-federal-case-anot...
  - elteto 3y ago
    Thanks for the USC reference, I read 5 counts but glossed over the fact that that was the indictment. And thanks for the piece on The Wire, that was a nice read.

n2d4 3y ago

That's because "aggravated identity theft" can never be the only crime you are convicted for. It is always dependent on another felony. The identity theft just adds two years on-top of whatever the other crime would've gotten you. Here, of course the two extra years don't matter, but if you commit identity theft to steal your grandma's candies, I don't think you should be getting 30 years in prison. Relevant: https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1028A https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1028A

Anotheroneagain 3y ago

I suppose it may have something to do with the guy becoming homeless, and they don't want to show the whole extent of the horrors that they made real guy go through.

Hnrobert42 3y ago

I suppose the disparity is as a result in the difference of aggrieved party. Steal from a bank, off with your head. Steal from a person. Meh.

givemeethekeys 3y ago
You’re allowed to scam whomever you want except for the wealthy or connected.

elteto 3y ago

> He was indicted Dec. 12, on five counts of false statement to a National Credit Union Administration insured institution and two counts of aggravated identity theft. It's actually 6 years max per false statement charge, so in total 30 years.

lolinder 3y ago
Literally the next sentence after what you quoted: > He pleaded guilty Monday to one count of each charge, and the other counts were dropped. He was indicted for five counts and two, but that just means that's what the prosecution was going to try to get him for. He pled guilty to one of each, presumably to avoid an even harsher possible sentence.
- qingcharles 3y ago
  Standard plea deal is usually pleading out to one or two charges from a whole host of shit that the prosecutor threw at the wall, but probably couldn't get a conviction on at trial.
ahepp 3y ago
I don't believe that's correct? https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1006 https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1006 I believe this may be the same law referred to as "the headshot" in HBO's The Wire? The creator of the show discusses it further online: https://davidsimon.com/kwame-brown-another-federal-case-another-head-shot/ https://davidsimon.com/kwame-brown-another-federal-case-anot...
- elteto 3y ago
  Thanks for the USC reference, I read 5 counts but glossed over the fact that that was the indictment. And thanks for the piece on The Wire, that was a nice read.