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I'm apparently at least one genius on HN that doesn't multiply unrelated sources. I took each claim as coming from a separate source because the article specif

I'm apparently at least one genius on HN that doesn't multiply unrelated sources. I took each claim as coming from a separate source because the article specifies that they did. By itself, a claim of 10% allowance, implies a 10% allowed civilian casualty rate. Also, if you down vote, it prevents me from commenting. If you just want to get the last word in, say so. You're not important enough for me to care if I do. Neither is this hearsay article. More telling, you completely dodged the racism in Gaza's charter. Swept it under the rug. Israel is bad for using AI, but it doesn't bother you that Gaza wants to kill all civilians? Really, I think that last one makes moot all of your points entirely.

michaelmrose 3y ago
You can't downvote direct responses nor does a downvote prevent a response. YOu might find that the reply button is not present on a comment immediately after it is made. If you click on the stamp eg "1 hour ago" you will note the reply button is evident and can be used. The predicted false targeting rate is explicitly NOT the civilian casualty rate nor is it even supposed to be. You are seizing dishonestly on a low number because it appears justifiable. It's not the overall civilian casualty rate which appears to be 2–3x nor the expected casualty rate of AI guided bombing of residences which appears to be much higher yet. It does appear that the maximum allowable rate according to Israeli policy is 21x for such bombing raids.
- trimethylpurine 3y ago
  It does prevent you from posting for an hour. The reply button is present. You get a "you're posting too fast" message. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35157524 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35157524 So in summary what you're saying is, we should go with hearsay and sum all hearsay together, multiply all false claims and use those to guide our government. Nice. Hey, why do we use significant figures to guide our multiplication? Anyway even if we do believe all hearsay, you have to admit kill 99.999999999% of civilians is still a better policy then kill 100% (Gaza's policy). So your other points still don't matter. You've opted to defund the kill some policy while still funding the kill all policy. And simultaneously you're critiquing it. You have to admit, there's not just a little bias there. It's something deeper.
  - refulgentis 3y ago
    Yeah, that's a very specific error for a specific function. HN has a thing where they can manually mark accounts as throttled - my understanding its when you have a habit of replying emotionally and repeatedly to the same thread. So this, helpfully, gives you a pseudo-timeout to reflect before jumping back in, which in theory increases constructive responses, and at least prevents littering.
    - trimethylpurine 3y ago
      I don't know where you're getting that from. dang has very clearly explained how it works in that post.
      - refulgentis 3y ago
        "Your account is rate limited. We rate limit accounts when they post too many low-quality comments too quickly and/or get involved in flamewars." What part of this differs from how I described it, except I was more polite and didn't say you were posting low-quality comments, or doing a flame war? Your argumentative confusing responses used to frustrate me but you're putting a smile on my face now. Idk what's going on over there, but I have a feeling you know you're doing it, you're enjoying it, and I'm genuinely happy to hear that. יברכך יהוה וישמרך
        trimethylpurine 3y ago
        How would you automate a system that throttles low quality posts? It relies on downvotes. When people downvote your comments, you are "rate limited" for a short duration. That, of course, leaves open the problem of people downvoting stuff they disagree with, regardless of quality. Essentially, the system works, but in many cases, a downvote means you're right and the downvoter doesn't like being wrong. That causes an unjustified throttling. Oh well...

michaelmrose 3y ago

You can't downvote direct responses nor does a downvote prevent a response. YOu might find that the reply button is not present on a comment immediately after it is made. If you click on the stamp eg "1 hour ago" you will note the reply button is evident and can be used. The predicted false targeting rate is explicitly NOT the civilian casualty rate nor is it even supposed to be. You are seizing dishonestly on a low number because it appears justifiable. It's not the overall civilian casualty rate which appears to be 2–3x nor the expected casualty rate of AI guided bombing of residences which appears to be much higher yet. It does appear that the maximum allowable rate according to Israeli policy is 21x for such bombing raids.

trimethylpurine 3y ago
It does prevent you from posting for an hour. The reply button is present. You get a "you're posting too fast" message. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35157524 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35157524 So in summary what you're saying is, we should go with hearsay and sum all hearsay together, multiply all false claims and use those to guide our government. Nice. Hey, why do we use significant figures to guide our multiplication? Anyway even if we do believe all hearsay, you have to admit kill 99.999999999% of civilians is still a better policy then kill 100% (Gaza's policy). So your other points still don't matter. You've opted to defund the kill some policy while still funding the kill all policy. And simultaneously you're critiquing it. You have to admit, there's not just a little bias there. It's something deeper.
- refulgentis 3y ago
  Yeah, that's a very specific error for a specific function. HN has a thing where they can manually mark accounts as throttled - my understanding its when you have a habit of replying emotionally and repeatedly to the same thread. So this, helpfully, gives you a pseudo-timeout to reflect before jumping back in, which in theory increases constructive responses, and at least prevents littering.
  - trimethylpurine 3y ago
    I don't know where you're getting that from. dang has very clearly explained how it works in that post.
    - refulgentis 3y ago
      "Your account is rate limited. We rate limit accounts when they post too many low-quality comments too quickly and/or get involved in flamewars." What part of this differs from how I described it, except I was more polite and didn't say you were posting low-quality comments, or doing a flame war? Your argumentative confusing responses used to frustrate me but you're putting a smile on my face now. Idk what's going on over there, but I have a feeling you know you're doing it, you're enjoying it, and I'm genuinely happy to hear that. יברכך יהוה וישמרך
      - trimethylpurine 3y ago
        How would you automate a system that throttles low quality posts? It relies on downvotes. When people downvote your comments, you are "rate limited" for a short duration. That, of course, leaves open the problem of people downvoting stuff they disagree with, regardless of quality. Essentially, the system works, but in many cases, a downvote means you're right and the downvoter doesn't like being wrong. That causes an unjustified throttling. Oh well...