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> While you're right, the AI part is almost irrelevant. I think it's immoral that states can advertise their lotteries full-stop. Well, it does highlight the f

> While you're right, the AI part is almost irrelevant. I think it's immoral that states can advertise their lotteries full-stop. Well, it does highlight the fact that AI will make this sort of manipulation so much easier and faster. Imagine a world where there the only vehicles are bicycles and people crash frequently. Now, the first car is introduced and someone crashes at 100MPH -- would you really say that the car is irrelevant to the situation because people have been crashing for decades? Yes, you are right: the root problem is the way we view people's minds as a resource to be exploited through psychological manipulation, but that does not make irrelevant the very real new danger of AI.

ToucanLoucan 3y ago
> would you really say that the car is irrelevant to the situation because people have been crashing for decades? The tragic irony being that's basically what we did and continue to do.
- jprete 3y ago
  I understand why you might say that - particularly at a societal level - but individual drivers: * Must be licensed * Must have a minimum level of liability insurance that covers other participants in an accident * Can be fined, get higher insurance premiums, and lose their licenses for breaking driving laws * Can be put in jail for felonies for sufficiently reckless driving that has the potential to endanger others As I understand it, commercially licensed drivers usually have even higher requirements and lose their licenses more easily for driving infractions. GenAI makes a lot of creative actions much easier, faster, automatable, and available to everyone, and "everyone" includes a lot of people with no foresight or discipline whatsoever.
  - Swizec 3y ago
    None of this was true when cars were first introduced. Back in the early 20th century it was considered fairly normal that drivers would just sort of plow through pedestrians if they’re in the way. Big societal battle over who gets to be in streets – the people who have always been there, or the cars. Eventually jaywalking was invented as a concept by the car lobby. > And then the automobile happened. And then automobiles began killing thousands of children, every year. https://99percentinvisible.org/episode/episode-76-the-modern-moloch/ https://99percentinvisible.org/episode/episode-76-the-modern...

ToucanLoucan 3y ago

> would you really say that the car is irrelevant to the situation because people have been crashing for decades? The tragic irony being that's basically what we did and continue to do.

jprete 3y ago
I understand why you might say that - particularly at a societal level - but individual drivers: * Must be licensed * Must have a minimum level of liability insurance that covers other participants in an accident * Can be fined, get higher insurance premiums, and lose their licenses for breaking driving laws * Can be put in jail for felonies for sufficiently reckless driving that has the potential to endanger others As I understand it, commercially licensed drivers usually have even higher requirements and lose their licenses more easily for driving infractions. GenAI makes a lot of creative actions much easier, faster, automatable, and available to everyone, and "everyone" includes a lot of people with no foresight or discipline whatsoever.
- Swizec 3y ago
  None of this was true when cars were first introduced. Back in the early 20th century it was considered fairly normal that drivers would just sort of plow through pedestrians if they’re in the way. Big societal battle over who gets to be in streets – the people who have always been there, or the cars. Eventually jaywalking was invented as a concept by the car lobby. > And then the automobile happened. And then automobiles began killing thousands of children, every year. https://99percentinvisible.org/episode/episode-76-the-modern-moloch/ https://99percentinvisible.org/episode/episode-76-the-modern...