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Funny enough I didn't get a private office but we got walls built for a private office when the sales guy joined because he was disturbing everyone. If my non d

Funny enough I didn't get a private office but we got walls built for a private office when the sales guy joined because he was disturbing everyone. If my non developer coworkers realized how disturbing it is to be in flow writing code to have someone tap your shoulder and start discussing a totally unrelated issue to what you've been coding.

sdfjkl 14y ago
Be a grumpy bastard. Someone taps me on the shoulder, I'm grumpy the first time, I growl the second time and if there is a third time I'll shout at them. Hasn't come to the shouting yet (although one guy got pretty close, but I just glared at him last time he approached and he grasped it). Also, ask if you can work from home since your office environment is bullshit for writing code.
- badclient 14y ago
  Work from home was turned down pretty quickly though I'm not sure if that would have addressed the root problem. I think the root issue is they need a developer who just does tech support for the other 10 non tech people. And then a developer who can actually build shit quietly. If my whole job was to do tech support all day there would be no problem. Of course it wouldn't be fun and I'd prolly end up leaving, the present situation hasn't been much better and I'm on my way out. Now that I am leaving soon my boss is very interested for advice on how to attract tech talent. A part of me just wants to send him a link to this thread :)
  - jimbokun 14y ago
    "A part of me just wants to send him a link to this thread :)" That's probably the single best thing you could do for him, if he is serious about wanting to attract (and retain!) good technology people.
- pilsetnieks 14y ago
  Re: working from home Been there, done that. The only difference is that they call me on the phone instead of coming up to my desk.
jrs235 14y ago
My place of employment is similar to yours, I've moved myself up the ladder in order to start isolating and enabling my dev team the peace and quiet they need to be most productive. What if, while you code, you think out loud, like really out loud... louder than you would talk in conversation? Perhaps if YOU bothered EVERYONE then maybe they'd put you in a private office? It's worth a try while you are looking for other opportunities... i.e. "LET ME THINK HERE... IF VARIABLE V EQUALS ENUM ACTIVE THEN CALL DOHICKY ELSE DO NOTHING... WAIT IS THAT RIGHT?! NO NO NO LET ME RETHINK THIS?! I BET IF I REFACTOR THIS CODE I CAN..." All day long...if they tell you to be quiet tell them to "shut up" you're trying to think and they are ruining your thought processes and they risk causing you to slow down and/or enter errors and bugs into the code... "what do you mean me talking and noise in general is disturbing to you and your work? How they hell do you think I feel?!?!?" :)
- mahyarm 14y ago
  That kind of passive aggressiveness will make your coworkers hate you and could get you fired because they know you don't have to do that.
  - jrs235 14y ago
    But if you are planning to leave, what harm will it really do? When you have pocket aces, bet and play them! EDIT: Maybe you'll inadvertently help the next guy. Yeah they might not care much for you but maybe, just maybe, something will click and the folks will realize... yeah I guess disturbing him was stupid on our part. If not and they don't get it... who gives a crap about people that don't give a crap about you!?
    - eli 14y ago
      That's not playing a good hand, that's being a dick simply because you can probably get away with it. Don't be a dick.
  - jrs235 14y ago
    Apparently that passive aggressiveness already exists in his work place thanks to his bosses and co-workers... but some how you all fault him and say he can't share that same love?
megablast 14y ago
If you only you could talk to them? Seriously, most of these problems are due to lack of communication, set up a ticketing system, teach people how to use it.

sdfjkl 14y ago

Be a grumpy bastard. Someone taps me on the shoulder, I'm grumpy the first time, I growl the second time and if there is a third time I'll shout at them. Hasn't come to the shouting yet (although one guy got pretty close, but I just glared at him last time he approached and he grasped it). Also, ask if you can work from home since your office environment is bullshit for writing code.

badclient 14y ago
Work from home was turned down pretty quickly though I'm not sure if that would have addressed the root problem. I think the root issue is they need a developer who just does tech support for the other 10 non tech people. And then a developer who can actually build shit quietly. If my whole job was to do tech support all day there would be no problem. Of course it wouldn't be fun and I'd prolly end up leaving, the present situation hasn't been much better and I'm on my way out. Now that I am leaving soon my boss is very interested for advice on how to attract tech talent. A part of me just wants to send him a link to this thread :)
- jimbokun 14y ago
  "A part of me just wants to send him a link to this thread :)" That's probably the single best thing you could do for him, if he is serious about wanting to attract (and retain!) good technology people.
pilsetnieks 14y ago
Re: working from home Been there, done that. The only difference is that they call me on the phone instead of coming up to my desk.

jrs235 14y ago

My place of employment is similar to yours, I've moved myself up the ladder in order to start isolating and enabling my dev team the peace and quiet they need to be most productive. What if, while you code, you think out loud, like really out loud... louder than you would talk in conversation? Perhaps if YOU bothered EVERYONE then maybe they'd put you in a private office? It's worth a try while you are looking for other opportunities... i.e. "LET ME THINK HERE... IF VARIABLE V EQUALS ENUM ACTIVE THEN CALL DOHICKY ELSE DO NOTHING... WAIT IS THAT RIGHT?! NO NO NO LET ME RETHINK THIS?! I BET IF I REFACTOR THIS CODE I CAN..." All day long...if they tell you to be quiet tell them to "shut up" you're trying to think and they are ruining your thought processes and they risk causing you to slow down and/or enter errors and bugs into the code... "what do you mean me talking and noise in general is disturbing to you and your work? How they hell do you think I feel?!?!?" :)

mahyarm 14y ago
That kind of passive aggressiveness will make your coworkers hate you and could get you fired because they know you don't have to do that.
- jrs235 14y ago
  But if you are planning to leave, what harm will it really do? When you have pocket aces, bet and play them! EDIT: Maybe you'll inadvertently help the next guy. Yeah they might not care much for you but maybe, just maybe, something will click and the folks will realize... yeah I guess disturbing him was stupid on our part. If not and they don't get it... who gives a crap about people that don't give a crap about you!?
  - eli 14y ago
    That's not playing a good hand, that's being a dick simply because you can probably get away with it. Don't be a dick.
- jrs235 14y ago
  Apparently that passive aggressiveness already exists in his work place thanks to his bosses and co-workers... but some how you all fault him and say he can't share that same love?

megablast 14y ago

If you only you could talk to them? Seriously, most of these problems are due to lack of communication, set up a ticketing system, teach people how to use it.