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I used to laugh so hard at those tv and movie scenes when they would "enhance" an image: https://youtu.be/LhF_56SxrGk https://youtu.be/LhF_56SxrGk I guess yest

I used to laugh so hard at those tv and movie scenes when they would "enhance" an image: https://youtu.be/LhF_56SxrGk https://youtu.be/LhF_56SxrGk I guess yesterday's science fiction is now our reality.

palad1n 3y ago
I think I've got a twitch now, when I think about this. How those stupid moviemakers would say, "enhance!" and I (along with many of my geek brethren) were like, "there are no more pixels, that can't be done!" And now it exists. "Enhance" exists.
- kyriakos 3y ago
  Or does it? If you enhance security footage to make a barely visible face recognizable it will make it but it won't be the person in the footage anymore.
  - wood_spirit 3y ago
    It would be really interesting to see what it upscales poor security footage to be when we know the people in the picture; how accurate was it?
    - wruza 3y ago
      The models usually bundled with ESRGAN don't enhance like CSI. They straighten lines and jpeg blocking a little and correct "subatomic" details, but cannot restore large areas like faces, objects, etc. It's more of an AI-flavored "Effects - Sharpen" than stereotypical "Enhance!".
    - 112233 3y ago
      You probably remember this: https://petapixel.com/2020/08/17/gigapixel-ai-accidentally-added-ryan-goslings-face-to-this-photo/ https://petapixel.com/2020/08/17/gigapixel-ai-accidentally-a...
  - kookamamie 3y ago
    It does not exist. The AI models generate "what could be" instead of "what was", i.e. they hallucinate heavily in upscale tasks.
    - lostlogin 3y ago
      > It does not exist. The MRI scanner near you is potentially using AI to increase image signal, then to increase pixel count 4x (well, 2x in X direction, 2x in Y direction. Potentially also generating a slice between each slice in 3D datasets). If you turn off the AI and actually acquire the information, the scan is long, the patient moves and it is blurry. However if the patient is still, the non AI images look like the AI images. Disagreeing with it is sort of moot now - it’s in the machines and is running. It works well, I’ve been using it daily for a few years. All vendors have it - I use the Siemens product ‘Deep Resolve’ [1]. Their PR department undersells it, in my view this is a bigger change than the 1.5T to 3T transition. [1] https://www.siemens-healthineers.com/magnetic-resonance-imaging/technologies-and-innovations/deep-resolve https://www.siemens-healthineers.com/magnetic-resonance-imag...
      - j16sdiz 3y ago
        The scanner is faster because it collect less data. The image is sharper because it have more data. Where did the missing data came from? It came from the training data set, not the patient. No matter how good the image look like, it is not something from from the patient.
        tomrod 3y ago
        Yet, it can be "close enough" for horseshoes, hand grenades, and surgery.
        JeremyNT 3y ago
        Which may well be, but those detectives still aren't going to suddenly be able to read the license plate from an "enhanced" blurry photo, like their TV counterparts were doing back in the early 00s.
- spookie 3y ago
  The better example of "Enhance!" still remains this piece of software: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19wgu5GZDhk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19wgu5GZDhk
userbinator 3y ago
It just hallucinates the details now.
- pixelesque 3y ago
  Yes - I can't find it now, but a few weeks ago I saw a demo website for some other upscaler with an example image of a picture of food, and it was pretty clear that the upscaled "version" was different bread than the original lower-res version, and things like herb "sprinkles" (oregano?) in the original became pine nuts or something in the upscaled version....
  - NayamAmarshe 3y ago
    Yes, I personally think it's false advertising. AI Re-painter is not AI Upscaling. I even received a review on Mac App Store saying Upscayl is worse because it does upscaling instead of repainting like Magnific.
  - qingcharles 3y ago
    That bread is from the front page here: https://magnific.ai/ https://magnific.ai/
forgingahead 3y ago
The correct phrase should have been "Hallucinate!"
holoduke 3y ago
Except that when you try to enhance the numberplate of a suspected killer you get a platenumber which is based on avarage noise and mqybe different than reality.
NayamAmarshe 3y ago
> I guess yesterday's science fiction is now our reality. That's actually what's written on https://upscayl.org https://upscayl.org, "From Science Fiction to Reality" haha

palad1n 3y ago

I think I've got a twitch now, when I think about this. How those stupid moviemakers would say, "enhance!" and I (along with many of my geek brethren) were like, "there are no more pixels, that can't be done!" And now it exists. "Enhance" exists.

kyriakos 3y ago
Or does it? If you enhance security footage to make a barely visible face recognizable it will make it but it won't be the person in the footage anymore.
- wood_spirit 3y ago
  It would be really interesting to see what it upscales poor security footage to be when we know the people in the picture; how accurate was it?
  - wruza 3y ago
    The models usually bundled with ESRGAN don't enhance like CSI. They straighten lines and jpeg blocking a little and correct "subatomic" details, but cannot restore large areas like faces, objects, etc. It's more of an AI-flavored "Effects - Sharpen" than stereotypical "Enhance!".
  - 112233 3y ago
    You probably remember this: https://petapixel.com/2020/08/17/gigapixel-ai-accidentally-added-ryan-goslings-face-to-this-photo/ https://petapixel.com/2020/08/17/gigapixel-ai-accidentally-a...
- kookamamie 3y ago
  It does not exist. The AI models generate "what could be" instead of "what was", i.e. they hallucinate heavily in upscale tasks.
  - lostlogin 3y ago
    > It does not exist. The MRI scanner near you is potentially using AI to increase image signal, then to increase pixel count 4x (well, 2x in X direction, 2x in Y direction. Potentially also generating a slice between each slice in 3D datasets). If you turn off the AI and actually acquire the information, the scan is long, the patient moves and it is blurry. However if the patient is still, the non AI images look like the AI images. Disagreeing with it is sort of moot now - it’s in the machines and is running. It works well, I’ve been using it daily for a few years. All vendors have it - I use the Siemens product ‘Deep Resolve’ [1]. Their PR department undersells it, in my view this is a bigger change than the 1.5T to 3T transition. [1] https://www.siemens-healthineers.com/magnetic-resonance-imaging/technologies-and-innovations/deep-resolve https://www.siemens-healthineers.com/magnetic-resonance-imag...
    - j16sdiz 3y ago
      The scanner is faster because it collect less data. The image is sharper because it have more data. Where did the missing data came from? It came from the training data set, not the patient. No matter how good the image look like, it is not something from from the patient.
      - tomrod 3y ago
        Yet, it can be "close enough" for horseshoes, hand grenades, and surgery.
        JeremyNT 3y ago
        Which may well be, but those detectives still aren't going to suddenly be able to read the license plate from an "enhanced" blurry photo, like their TV counterparts were doing back in the early 00s.
spookie 3y ago
The better example of "Enhance!" still remains this piece of software: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19wgu5GZDhk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19wgu5GZDhk

userbinator 3y ago

It just hallucinates the details now.

pixelesque 3y ago
Yes - I can't find it now, but a few weeks ago I saw a demo website for some other upscaler with an example image of a picture of food, and it was pretty clear that the upscaled "version" was different bread than the original lower-res version, and things like herb "sprinkles" (oregano?) in the original became pine nuts or something in the upscaled version....
- NayamAmarshe 3y ago
  Yes, I personally think it's false advertising. AI Re-painter is not AI Upscaling. I even received a review on Mac App Store saying Upscayl is worse because it does upscaling instead of repainting like Magnific.
- qingcharles 3y ago
  That bread is from the front page here: https://magnific.ai/ https://magnific.ai/

forgingahead 3y ago

The correct phrase should have been "Hallucinate!"

holoduke 3y ago

Except that when you try to enhance the numberplate of a suspected killer you get a platenumber which is based on avarage noise and mqybe different than reality.

NayamAmarshe 3y ago

> I guess yesterday's science fiction is now our reality. That's actually what's written on https://upscayl.org https://upscayl.org, "From Science Fiction to Reality" haha