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I know this is really off-topic... It's just that the Anakin thing is something I have been thinking about a lot. I think he was unfairly judged and got kind of

I know this is really off-topic... It's just that the Anakin thing is something I have been thinking about a lot. I think he was unfairly judged and got kind of a raw deal in the grand scheme of things. He also wasn't fully in control during Order 66, that was more the Emperor and the "Dark Side". Anakin was sold into what is basically slavery as a child, tried to do the right thing along the way and survive, then he believed he was rescued by a Jedi, who cared about him to a degree as a padawan, but ultimately restricted him and did not trust him, which is part of what the Emperor used to manipulate Anakin into doing all of the things he wanted. Then you have Padme, who was much older than Anakin, and manipulated his mind as only an older woman can do. This was the second half of the Emperor's plan to turn Anakin to the dark side. I think the full story about Anakin is not as bad as it seems, and Obi Wan did not have to take it as far as he did and leave Anakin alone after being cut up and burned to die slowly to death. He didn't even care enough about Anakin to put him out of his misery after defeating him. He just wanted him to suffer. So it's really like what Anakin said in the Ahsoka series, "I am what you made me" EDIT: Obi-Wan series, not Ahsoka series.

staticman2 3y ago
"but ultimately restricted him and did not trust him, which is part of what the Emperor used to manipulate Anakin into doing all of the things he wanted." Mace Windu actually did ultimately trust Anakin. He said "you've earned my trust" shorty before Anakin chops his hands off. If Anakin hadn't betrayed them he would have become highly trusted. Though he still may have been expelled from the order for loving Padme maybe? The jedi were in a no win situation with Anakin. He clearly lacked the temperment to be a jedi, but firing him would have made him turn to the dark side quicker. So they kept him around but didn't promote him to the council. Even as a 9 year old they had sensed he lacked the temperament to be a jedi and they were reluctant to recruit him.
- hnbad 3y ago
  I'd go even so far as to say that the Jedi were institutionally unequipped to deal with Anakin. They tried to have it both ways by keeping him around to prevent him from turning to the dark side and stunted him to prevent him from becoming too powerful while also failing to provide him with an environment to deal with his emotions other than appealing to stoicism and abstinence. Their obsession with dogma over people is what ultimately led to Luke destroying the ancient Jedi texts in the sequel trilogy after similarly failing his own nephew.
  - staticman2 3y ago
    Luke doesn't destroy the texts, he was going to until Yoda's ghost appears to do it with lightning then they show Ray had stolen the texts. (I think it would have been better if Luke was going to destroy the texts, Yoda does it, Luke is outraged and realizes he doesn't want the Jedi to end, then Yoda says "then you'll have to tell people what was in the texts" and then Luke becomes a teacher again and doesn't die) The sequel trilogy really has nothing to say about the prequels. Luke doesn't fail because he's following Jedi dogma, he doesn't even have the texts until he leaves and finds the first Jedi temple after Kylo turned evil, which had nothing to do with worldly attachments as far as we see.

staticman2 3y ago

"but ultimately restricted him and did not trust him, which is part of what the Emperor used to manipulate Anakin into doing all of the things he wanted." Mace Windu actually did ultimately trust Anakin. He said "you've earned my trust" shorty before Anakin chops his hands off. If Anakin hadn't betrayed them he would have become highly trusted. Though he still may have been expelled from the order for loving Padme maybe? The jedi were in a no win situation with Anakin. He clearly lacked the temperment to be a jedi, but firing him would have made him turn to the dark side quicker. So they kept him around but didn't promote him to the council. Even as a 9 year old they had sensed he lacked the temperament to be a jedi and they were reluctant to recruit him.

hnbad 3y ago
I'd go even so far as to say that the Jedi were institutionally unequipped to deal with Anakin. They tried to have it both ways by keeping him around to prevent him from turning to the dark side and stunted him to prevent him from becoming too powerful while also failing to provide him with an environment to deal with his emotions other than appealing to stoicism and abstinence. Their obsession with dogma over people is what ultimately led to Luke destroying the ancient Jedi texts in the sequel trilogy after similarly failing his own nephew.
- staticman2 3y ago
  Luke doesn't destroy the texts, he was going to until Yoda's ghost appears to do it with lightning then they show Ray had stolen the texts. (I think it would have been better if Luke was going to destroy the texts, Yoda does it, Luke is outraged and realizes he doesn't want the Jedi to end, then Yoda says "then you'll have to tell people what was in the texts" and then Luke becomes a teacher again and doesn't die) The sequel trilogy really has nothing to say about the prequels. Luke doesn't fail because he's following Jedi dogma, he doesn't even have the texts until he leaves and finds the first Jedi temple after Kylo turned evil, which had nothing to do with worldly attachments as far as we see.