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NetBSD 10.0 Released
- schmonz 3y agoThe NetBSD Project is pleased to announce NetBSD 10.0, the eighteenth major release of the NetBSD operating system. It represents cumulative improvements to the operating system since NetBSD 9.x was originally branched in 2019.
- jmclnx 3y agocongratulations, the RCs were quite stable so it should work well for all!
- t1c 3y ago> Apple M1 SoC support, e.g. the M1 Mac Mini. AsahiBSD soon?
- snvzz 3y agoUnneeded, as you can already install NetBSD on such a machine today.
- t1c 3y agoWith a desktop environment and everything?! I had no clue, I'd love to see a demo or at least feature chart
- washbear 3y agoYes, X11 works. Feature chart here: https://wiki.netbsd.org/ports/evbarm/apple/ https://wiki.netbsd.org/ports/evbarm/apple/
- Koshkin 3y agoWell, > As of April 2022 it is best to use the Asahi installer. https://wiki.netbsd.org/ports/evbarm/apple/ https://wiki.netbsd.org/ports/evbarm/apple/
- snvzz 3y agoYes, the installer is very custom. Apple didn't even try to follow the arm server/workstation boot specifications.
- TMWNN 3y ago[flagged]
- jmclnx 3y agoThis ancient text is tiring, it is almost word for word what has been posted over the past 20 years. You did not even bother to update the numbers or change the wording. You have the honor of getting my 2nd down vote.
- deleted 3y ago[deleted]
- albinahlback 3y agoI've been interested to try out (Net|Open|Free)BSD for a while. I mostly code and compile C code. What should one expect when going from Linux to either of these BSD systems?
- vbezhenar 3y agoJoy.
- felixg3 3y agoExpect to configure your drivers manually and poor support for sleep on more recent devices. Otherwise, it’s pretty great!
- nvy 3y agoPoor driver support, poor performance, lots of manual editing of config files to accomplish routine tasks, but BSD is "more cohesive" according to most of its proponents.
- zilti 3y agoEnjoy spreading misinformation much?
- ByQuyzzy 3y agoI think the DoD is still mad at Theo for pointing out how stupid the Iraq war was going to be.
- nvy 3y agoMatches exactly my annual experience of trying OpenBSD. It is not misinformation. The FreeBSD handbook, for example, directs the user to manually edit wpa_supplicant.conf. If you want to switch from a static IP to a DHCP lease you need to run some commands as root and restart the daemon manually.
- yjftsjthsd-h 3y agoIf you want something with GUI out of the box, consider GhostBSD. IMHO OpenBSD also has an advantage when being used as a laptop or desktop because its developers seem more inclined to daily drive it than free/net.
- Decabytes 3y agoYea babyyyy I've been waiting for this release. I've been eager to fire it up on my Thinkpad.
- strickman 3y agoCongrats on the eighteens major release.
- dgfitz 3y agoI am really quite heavily involved in the tech sector, across a lot of domains. I don’t know a soul who runs a BSD variant. How can I expose myself to this arena beyond making a BSD box… which seems like a waste of time at the moment.
- Mister_Snuggles 3y agoWhy do you consider it a waste of time?
- nesarkvechnep 3y agoHe wants to expose himself to the arena but doesn’t want to spend any time. Unfortunately, experience can’t be poured through a funnel.
- dbolgheroni 3y agoSo you would only "expose yourself", specially a quite low friction action of trying a new piece of software, if you know someone who already "wasted their time" on it? Do you use the same criteria with every piece of software? What's your point?
- dgfitz 3y agoHmm. I wasn’t trying to make a point. I was asking a question. What is your point?
- efortis 3y agoFor FreeBSD, search for Netflix Open Connect appliance. Also, follow @cperciva For OpenBSD, build a router+firewall for your home. For FreeBSD jails networking here is a post for a two server infra https://blog.uirig.com/freebsd-jails-network-setup https://blog.uirig.com/freebsd-jails-network-setup
- toast0 3y agoArguably, macOS is a BSD variant. Much of the userspace UNIX utilities and a lot of the networking stack were forked from FreeBSD. Although it's not the nicest showing, because Apple doesn't pull updates very frequently; a two decade old TCP stack has a lot of issues, Apple added MPTCP and nice PMTUD, but doesn't have SYN cookies, so I wouldn't run a public server with it. Maybe you can find a BSD shell account somewhere? But otherwise, yeah, you need to run a BSD to experience it. How woulr you experience Linux without a Linux machine? There's live cds and virtual machine images and what nots for BSDs too. I can't say if its worth your time or not. Not a lot of companies run production on FreeBSD anymore, unfortunately. Yahoo was midway through switching when I left, WhatsApp was almost done when I left. I'm happier running FreeBSD on my personal equipment than I was with Debian, but that makes it worthwhile for me, not you. Switching OSes is a long process and living in multiple OSes at the same time isn't easy. I use Linux for work, so I have to go back and forth between ifconfig on my home boxes and production Linux, but ip addr on my dev box. And sometimes netstat and sometimes ss, etc. It'd be nicer if everything was consistent and didn't change for what seems like the sake of change, but it is what it is.
- krylon 3y agoHooray! I've been running successive release candidates in a VM for a couple of weeks now, just upgraded to 10.0-RC6 this week. Guess I'll do another upgrade soon.
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- Mister_Snuggles 3y agoI've never used NetBSD, but this announcement is rekindling my desire to install it on my old PowerBook G4.
- idatum 3y agoAwesome news! I've been running a few versions of the RCs for NetBSD 10 on a Pine RockPro64. A few reasons NetBSD 10 is a good choice for this Aarch64 device: - Handles ARM's big.LITTLE well. You can use /usr/sbin/schedctl -A 4,5 to pin a process to the fast cores. - Generally rock solid -- I've had uptimes in months and generally only rebooted when I upgraded. Like today! - Can boot from an eMMC instead of an SD card. - Supports the PCIe card. I have an SSD adapter. You can even use ZFS. - HDMI support.
- snvzz 3y agoThe Amiga port got significant improvements, including many not listed in the release notes. Xorg works much better now, first boot is significantly faster, and tools used for writing the installer image into disk can safely work with partitions extending above 4GB or over 4GB size.
- metadat 3y agoI still use netbsd as my main desktop, since more than 15 years and counting. Long live NetBSD. My system uptime is counted in years.
- ptek 3y agoGood to know, will install the latest release. I mainly use lubuntu because of better browser support and driver support (I'm cheap and buy cheap laptops which have unsupported hardware). This could be overcome if I got off my ass and started to code in ANSI C89. Still need to finish my OpenStep ICHX IDE Driver. Congrats to the team :)
- indrora 3y agoIf you ever find yourself interested in living in a NetBSD system, check out the SDF: sdf.org the SuperDimensionalFortress has been around since the 80s and is now one of the largest installations of NetBSD in the US/world. Membership gets you such perks as: email address, a private (invite-only) Mastodon instance, a hosted Matrix instance, and more. While you aren't an administrator on the SDF instance, you can definitely get a sense of what it's like. Different membership tiers get you access to different tools: Free users don't get IRC outbound, MetaARPA members are granted access to the big disk store and hosted websites and even development tools.
- thor_molecules 3y agoThat's very interesting! Love finding little nooks and crannies like this
- mrb 3y agoI hope the NetBSD devs included the latest version 5.6.1 of "xz" as it has some new interesting features.
- tux2bsd 3y ago[dead]