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SMS is fine on most countries. It’s just America is dumb and allows number transfers to anyone.
by throwaway2990 3y ago
SMS is fine on most countries. It’s just America is dumb and allows number transfers to anyone.
- KiwiJohnno 3y agoIts also been a problem in Australia, Optus (2nd biggest teleco) used to allow number porting or activating sim against an existing account with a bare minimum of detail - Like a name, address and date of birth. If you had those details of a target you could clone their SIM and crack any SMS based MFA.
- chris_wot 3y agoIs that alllowed now still?
- throwaway2990 3y agoApparently changed in 2022 to protect consumers.
- eru 3y agoNumber transfers in other countries is also mostly just a question of a bit of social engineering.
- throwaway2990 3y agoNo. Most require some form of identification or matching identification between mobile providers.
- macrolime 3y agoI recently had an issue with a sim card and went to phone store that gave me a new one and disabled the old. They're supposed to ask for ID, but often doesn't bother. This is true for pretty much every country. Phone 2FA is simply completely insecure.
- eru 3y agoIf the ID matching is done by humans, you can use social engineering on it. See the sibling comment.
- StillBored 3y agoSMS is not E2E encrypted, so for all intents is just a plain text message that can/has been snooped. Might as well just send a plaintext emails as well.
- hwertz 3y agoNope, I read The Register (UK based) and they've had scandals from celebrities having their confidential SMS messages leaked; SMS spoofing; I think they even have SIM cloning going on every now and then in UK and some European countries. (since The Register is a tech site, my recollection is some carriers took technical measures to prevent these issues while quite a few didn't.) I don't think it's a thing that happens that often in UK etc.; but, it doesn't happen that frequently in the US either. It's just a thing that can potentially happen.
- throwaway2990 3y agoUK has plenty of other problems to solve first with identity thief.
- croemer 3y ago...where identity is proved by utility bills instead of government issued id
- doubled112 3y agoHow else do you prove you live some place? “I pay the bills there” is barely better than nothing, though. We do this in Canada too. It is what I used for a driver’s license one renewal.
- vladvasiliu 3y agoI don’t know about other parts, but here in France SMS is a shitshow. I regularly fail to receive them even though I know I have good reception. This happened the other day while I was on a conference call with perfect audio and video using my phone’s mobile data. A few weeks back, had some shop which sends out an SMS to inform you the job’s done tell me this is usually hit and miss when I complained about not hearing from them.
- high_priest 3y agoMany single radio phones can either receive sms/calls, or transmit data. My relative owns such a device and cannot use internet during calls or receive/make calls during streaming like YT video playback.
- vladvasiliu 3y agoIn my case this is an iPhone 14 pro. I'm pretty sure I can receive calls while using data, since I often look things up on the internet while talking to my parents. And, by the way, the SMS in question never arrived. I don't know if there's some kind of timeout happening, and the network gives up after a while. Some 15 years ago I remember getting texts after an hour or two if I only had spotty reception. This may of course have changed in the meantime, plus this is a different provider.
- dewey 3y agoSS7 is a global issue, and so is social engineering to get a number transferred or SIM card transferred. https://hitcon.org/2015/CMT/download/day1-d-r0.pdf https://hitcon.org/2015/CMT/download/day1-d-r0.pdf