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At some point its not about deterrent or social benefit but justice. People can say its not fair or productive for people like him to be locked up forever. Well

At some point its not about deterrent or social benefit but justice. People can say its not fair or productive for people like him to be locked up forever. Well, what about their victims? How many people's financial futures were destroyed by SBF? Is it fair to all those people that he will get to live a normal life? And likely a comfortable well off one at that. He already had a privileged family and I have no doubt it will be easy for him to profit off his story once he gets out. The hardly seems right.

batch12 3y ago
Does his jail time do anything that helps his victims other than make them feel good? Are there other ways he could make reparations?
- TheOtherHobbes 3y ago
  It protects potential future victims - both from SBF and from those who might want to emulate him. Which is why I think the sentence is too low. There are other ways he could make reparations. One would be to have one-to-one meetings with his victims, where they tell him in person how his actions affected them. There's a fair chance it would bounce right off SBF, because he clearly has serious personality issues. Then again, maybe not.
bawolff 3y ago
> Well, what about their victims? How many people's financial futures were destroyed by SBF? Is it fair to all those people that he will get to live a normal life? That sounds more like retribution than justice. I.E. wanting to cause him pain because he caused pain in others. Of course, i don't have a better answer by any means.
- seanmcdirmid 3y ago
  It is deterrence: it sends the message of don't do the same thing or you'll wind up in prison for a long time. It really isn't retribution, this kind of enforcement is meant to scare other potential white collar criminals into not breaking the law as well.
- mnau 3y ago
  Retribution is one of justifications for punishment: retribution; incapacitation; deterrence; rehabilitation and reparation. Retribution is part of the justice.
ziddoap 3y ago
A prison sentence is punishment, not justice. Justice would be making the victims whole.

batch12 3y ago

Does his jail time do anything that helps his victims other than make them feel good? Are there other ways he could make reparations?

TheOtherHobbes 3y ago
It protects potential future victims - both from SBF and from those who might want to emulate him. Which is why I think the sentence is too low. There are other ways he could make reparations. One would be to have one-to-one meetings with his victims, where they tell him in person how his actions affected them. There's a fair chance it would bounce right off SBF, because he clearly has serious personality issues. Then again, maybe not.

bawolff 3y ago

> Well, what about their victims? How many people's financial futures were destroyed by SBF? Is it fair to all those people that he will get to live a normal life? That sounds more like retribution than justice. I.E. wanting to cause him pain because he caused pain in others. Of course, i don't have a better answer by any means.

seanmcdirmid 3y ago
It is deterrence: it sends the message of don't do the same thing or you'll wind up in prison for a long time. It really isn't retribution, this kind of enforcement is meant to scare other potential white collar criminals into not breaking the law as well.
mnau 3y ago
Retribution is one of justifications for punishment: retribution; incapacitation; deterrence; rehabilitation and reparation. Retribution is part of the justice.

ziddoap 3y ago

A prison sentence is punishment, not justice. Justice would be making the victims whole.