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You can count the total number of confirmed human cases of H5N1 in the US, Canada, and the EU combined on one hand. That mortality rate is so skewed as to be us

You can count the total number of confirmed human cases of H5N1 in the US, Canada, and the EU combined on one hand. That mortality rate is so skewed as to be useless.

ceejayoz 3y ago
“When you have 15 people, and the 15 within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero, that’s a pretty good job we’ve done.” (Trump, Feb 2020) As I said, it’s certainly complicated by not knowing how many mild cases are out there undetected, but that doesn’t make it unconcerning.
- busterarm 3y ago
  Nearly everyone who died from COVID had multiple comorbidities. Biggest nothingburger of this century.
  - saltymug76 3y ago
    Yes the millions of deaths were a nothingburger. You showed them!
    - busterarm 3y ago
      Still behind cancer and heart disease. More people are cheeseburgering themselves to death in this country.
      - jaybrendansmith 3y ago
        I've had multiple friends and family die from this so-called nothing burger. My mother's heath will never be the same, she is now consigned to a wheelchair. Your statement is inflammatory and unhelpful, it does not advance the conversation, and is a provable falsehood.
        busterarm 3y ago
        Tell me about your mom's PD/CVD/Diabetes pre-COVID. Tell me about your family's history with the above. I'm sure that I lost more friends due to lockdown-induced depression, drug/alcohol relapse and suicide than you lost family to COVID. If we should have learned anything it's that modern medicine has spoiled our species in that you can now live an excessively long time with extremely unhealthy lifestyles. Barely two generations ago dying from common colds, flus and even minor cut and scrape injuries was just everyday life. Maybe half of the children in a family might die before reaching adulthood. One particularly strong (lab-engineered) cold made the rounds and people want to bury their heads in the sand and pretend the sky is on fire. In the context of human history and coronaviruses, COVID-19 is absolutely a nothingburger.
        saltymug76 3y ago
        What a sad little world view you have. Of course it doesn't matter in the long run. But it matters to people alive right now. Which is why we do anything even though its all pointless. I guess you wouldn't care about your life or a family members life being taken by covid since its a nothingburger though huh?
        busterarm 3y ago
        My whole entire family works in medicine and isn't killing themselves with junk food and bad lifestyles, so even though most of us got COVID-19, none of us had the comorbidities that made it serious. Even among our overweight and elderly. If somebody's so fat and unhealthy that that they're gassed out from walking off the front porch, I'm not alarmed that a cold virus finished them off. I'm also not out here screaming about COVID, I'm screaming about the importance of diet, exercise and self-control instead. If they're of advanced age, it's (just) slightly more sad but none of us gets to live forever. Everyone will get cancer too if they live long enough. If you want to radically alter how the rest of us live our lives because you or a family member can't stop shoving McDonalds and cake into your face, I'm not fucking having it. What I AM sympathetic to are people who have to sequester themselves from society (and did so already in the absence of COVID-19) because they have very serious and usually rare disorders. But then maybe these gain of function labs should think twice before they play with fire and break containment. As with most things in life, garbage in, garbage out.

You can count the total number of confirmed human cases of H5N1 in the US, Canada, and the EU combined on one hand. That mortality rate is so skewed as to be useless.

ceejayoz 3y ago

“When you have 15 people, and the 15 within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero, that’s a pretty good job we’ve done.” (Trump, Feb 2020) As I said, it’s certainly complicated by not knowing how many mild cases are out there undetected, but that doesn’t make it unconcerning.

busterarm 3y ago
Nearly everyone who died from COVID had multiple comorbidities. Biggest nothingburger of this century.
- saltymug76 3y ago
  Yes the millions of deaths were a nothingburger. You showed them!
  - busterarm 3y ago
    Still behind cancer and heart disease. More people are cheeseburgering themselves to death in this country.
    - jaybrendansmith 3y ago
      I've had multiple friends and family die from this so-called nothing burger. My mother's heath will never be the same, she is now consigned to a wheelchair. Your statement is inflammatory and unhelpful, it does not advance the conversation, and is a provable falsehood.
      - busterarm 3y ago
        Tell me about your mom's PD/CVD/Diabetes pre-COVID. Tell me about your family's history with the above. I'm sure that I lost more friends due to lockdown-induced depression, drug/alcohol relapse and suicide than you lost family to COVID. If we should have learned anything it's that modern medicine has spoiled our species in that you can now live an excessively long time with extremely unhealthy lifestyles. Barely two generations ago dying from common colds, flus and even minor cut and scrape injuries was just everyday life. Maybe half of the children in a family might die before reaching adulthood. One particularly strong (lab-engineered) cold made the rounds and people want to bury their heads in the sand and pretend the sky is on fire. In the context of human history and coronaviruses, COVID-19 is absolutely a nothingburger.
        saltymug76 3y ago
        What a sad little world view you have. Of course it doesn't matter in the long run. But it matters to people alive right now. Which is why we do anything even though its all pointless. I guess you wouldn't care about your life or a family members life being taken by covid since its a nothingburger though huh?
        busterarm 3y ago
        My whole entire family works in medicine and isn't killing themselves with junk food and bad lifestyles, so even though most of us got COVID-19, none of us had the comorbidities that made it serious. Even among our overweight and elderly. If somebody's so fat and unhealthy that that they're gassed out from walking off the front porch, I'm not alarmed that a cold virus finished them off. I'm also not out here screaming about COVID, I'm screaming about the importance of diet, exercise and self-control instead. If they're of advanced age, it's (just) slightly more sad but none of us gets to live forever. Everyone will get cancer too if they live long enough. If you want to radically alter how the rest of us live our lives because you or a family member can't stop shoving McDonalds and cake into your face, I'm not fucking having it. What I AM sympathetic to are people who have to sequester themselves from society (and did so already in the absence of COVID-19) because they have very serious and usually rare disorders. But then maybe these gain of function labs should think twice before they play with fire and break containment. As with most things in life, garbage in, garbage out.