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I'm Ukrainian who left the village I was in one day before russians entered it. In a short time they were there, they killed 80+ civilians. Lots of similar case

I'm Ukrainian who left the village I was in one day before russians entered it. In a short time they were there, they killed 80+ civilians. Lots of similar cases are well documented everywhere. It's not a propaganda, it's fact.

riehwvfbk 3y ago
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- dralley 3y ago
  Their account is 12 years old... Yours, on the other hand, is barely 5 weeks old. It's the idiot who is claiming that Russians killing Ukrainian civilians is mere "propaganda" whose account is 100 days old.
  - riehwvfbk 3y ago
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    - boo-ga-ga 3y ago
      There are lots of officially confirmed reports regarding killed civilians. Is UN a good source for you? I've checked your account and you basically comment only on political issues. > Oh, and a 12 year old HN account originating in a tiny Ukrainian village that > has been massacred and yet completely stayed out of all news? Very primitive manipulation. I never told I "originated" in that village, never told it is tiny, never told it has been completely massacred. A very basic search on my submissions will show my name and what I do. I am very sorry that HN allows russian(-sponsored) trolls to be here.
      - riehwvfbk 3y ago
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        boo-ga-ga 3y ago
        Your post was not a disagreement. You intentionally rephrased what I said and implied that I'm lying and all the atrocities (many of them, but not all, well documented) done by russians are propaganda. By doing this, you help russians to continue their genocide.
        riehwvfbk 3y ago
        The vast majority of Ukrainian civilian deaths were in Donetsk (source: Wikipedia, https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Russo-Ukrainian_War https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Russo-Ukra...) If there is a genocide going on, it's not the side you are thinking of that is perpetuating it. But you'll just say that Wikipedia is wrong, and the UN sources they are citing are Russian propaganda. Also, you still didn't respond to the substance of my argument.
throw310822 3y ago
Russians are brutal, no doubt about it. But- even knowing Ukraine is a vast country with big differences between the western and eastern regions- are there cultural, ethnic and linguistic differences so deep between Russia and Ukraine that Russia's purpose would be extermination, rather than annexation of the easternmost regions and cultural assimilation? Honest question, obviously you know and understand this much better than I do, so feel free to bash my ignorance.
- boo-ga-ga 3y ago
  Their "assimilation" is basically a genocide: they displace people, "reeducate" children and move them from their parents to russian families, forcibly conscript Ukrainians on the occupied territories to die in wars etc. And of course, they do not hesitate to torture and kill lots of people in the process just because they are as they are. If you check what they tell, their next goal after conquering Ukraine (and expanding the army with Ukrainians) will be going for Baltics or Kazakhstan.

riehwvfbk 3y ago

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dralley 3y ago
Their account is 12 years old... Yours, on the other hand, is barely 5 weeks old. It's the idiot who is claiming that Russians killing Ukrainian civilians is mere "propaganda" whose account is 100 days old.
- riehwvfbk 3y ago
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  - boo-ga-ga 3y ago
    There are lots of officially confirmed reports regarding killed civilians. Is UN a good source for you? I've checked your account and you basically comment only on political issues. > Oh, and a 12 year old HN account originating in a tiny Ukrainian village that > has been massacred and yet completely stayed out of all news? Very primitive manipulation. I never told I "originated" in that village, never told it is tiny, never told it has been completely massacred. A very basic search on my submissions will show my name and what I do. I am very sorry that HN allows russian(-sponsored) trolls to be here.
    - riehwvfbk 3y ago
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      - boo-ga-ga 3y ago
        Your post was not a disagreement. You intentionally rephrased what I said and implied that I'm lying and all the atrocities (many of them, but not all, well documented) done by russians are propaganda. By doing this, you help russians to continue their genocide.
        riehwvfbk 3y ago
        The vast majority of Ukrainian civilian deaths were in Donetsk (source: Wikipedia, https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Russo-Ukrainian_War https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Russo-Ukra...) If there is a genocide going on, it's not the side you are thinking of that is perpetuating it. But you'll just say that Wikipedia is wrong, and the UN sources they are citing are Russian propaganda. Also, you still didn't respond to the substance of my argument.

throw310822 3y ago

Russians are brutal, no doubt about it. But- even knowing Ukraine is a vast country with big differences between the western and eastern regions- are there cultural, ethnic and linguistic differences so deep between Russia and Ukraine that Russia's purpose would be extermination, rather than annexation of the easternmost regions and cultural assimilation? Honest question, obviously you know and understand this much better than I do, so feel free to bash my ignorance.

boo-ga-ga 3y ago
Their "assimilation" is basically a genocide: they displace people, "reeducate" children and move them from their parents to russian families, forcibly conscript Ukrainians on the occupied territories to die in wars etc. And of course, they do not hesitate to torture and kill lots of people in the process just because they are as they are. If you check what they tell, their next goal after conquering Ukraine (and expanding the army with Ukrainians) will be going for Baltics or Kazakhstan.