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It can’t be that expensive to keep these servers up for the remaining 1000 people that use them right?

by Aeolun 3y ago

mathgradthrow 3y ago
mintendo just doesn't want smm to compete with smm2
- Zuiii 3y ago
  Nintendo, the drm-crazy company that keeps giving its customers more reasons to break their drm to preserve and play what they bought.
jjordan 3y ago
It's why we need self hosted servers. If not at launch then at some point during its life cycle so that buying a game means it's playable indefinitely.
- crtasm 3y ago
  Some amazing people have made this happen for Mario Maker 2: https://opencourse.world/ https://opencourse.world/ If you have levels uploaded on the official servers it's a straightforward process to get them copied over (and that step can be done with an unmodified game+console).
Shawnj2 3y ago
Honestly I think they just don’t want to deal with it especially since those endpoints are a massive security flaw in their network. In practice this is another “abandonment off to the community” moment like when Rebble spun off of Pebble the last week of the Pebble online services existing as Pretendo already has working replacement online services for the Wii U. After April 8th the only remaining Nintendo service for the Wii U will be redownloading already purchased games so if you own a Wii U it will pretty much make sense to set it up to handle all online through Pretendo, especially since a bunch of the existing Wii U online services have been broken for a long time like Miiverse and WaraWara plaza. Similarly if you jump through a bunch of hoops you can still play Mario Kart Wii online even though the game has been offline for a decade.
- hedora 3y ago
  > those endpoints are a massive security flaw in their network This doesn't sound like a real issue. They could just firewall it off in a separate amazon VPC or publish a docker / vdi version of it, etc.
  - kmeisthax 3y ago
    You're assuming Nintendo used AWS instead of colocating their own servers, but even if they did, "just firewall it" doesn't cut the mustard. The service itself is getting shittons of user data. If you manage to compromise the old servers, it doesn't matter if you can't get to newer stuff, you can still attack a bunch of people playing old systems[0]. You might not personally think your Wii U play data is worth securing, but the GDPR does. [0] https://xkcd.com/1200/ https://xkcd.com/1200/

It can’t be that expensive to keep these servers up for the remaining 1000 people that use them right?

by Aeolun 3y ago

It can’t be that expensive to keep these servers up for the remaining 1000 people that use them right?

mathgradthrow 3y ago

mintendo just doesn't want smm to compete with smm2

Zuiii 3y ago
Nintendo, the drm-crazy company that keeps giving its customers more reasons to break their drm to preserve and play what they bought.

jjordan 3y ago

It's why we need self hosted servers. If not at launch then at some point during its life cycle so that buying a game means it's playable indefinitely.

crtasm 3y ago
Some amazing people have made this happen for Mario Maker 2: https://opencourse.world/ https://opencourse.world/ If you have levels uploaded on the official servers it's a straightforward process to get them copied over (and that step can be done with an unmodified game+console).

Shawnj2 3y ago

Honestly I think they just don’t want to deal with it especially since those endpoints are a massive security flaw in their network. In practice this is another “abandonment off to the community” moment like when Rebble spun off of Pebble the last week of the Pebble online services existing as Pretendo already has working replacement online services for the Wii U. After April 8th the only remaining Nintendo service for the Wii U will be redownloading already purchased games so if you own a Wii U it will pretty much make sense to set it up to handle all online through Pretendo, especially since a bunch of the existing Wii U online services have been broken for a long time like Miiverse and WaraWara plaza. Similarly if you jump through a bunch of hoops you can still play Mario Kart Wii online even though the game has been offline for a decade.

hedora 3y ago
> those endpoints are a massive security flaw in their network This doesn't sound like a real issue. They could just firewall it off in a separate amazon VPC or publish a docker / vdi version of it, etc.
- kmeisthax 3y ago
  You're assuming Nintendo used AWS instead of colocating their own servers, but even if they did, "just firewall it" doesn't cut the mustard. The service itself is getting shittons of user data. If you manage to compromise the old servers, it doesn't matter if you can't get to newer stuff, you can still attack a bunch of people playing old systems[0]. You might not personally think your Wii U play data is worth securing, but the GDPR does. [0] https://xkcd.com/1200/ https://xkcd.com/1200/