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At least 18 killed, 43 wounded after terrorists attack at concert hall in Moscow

42 points by wslh 3y ago

haunter 3y ago
Two weeks ago the US gov warned about this https://ru.usembassy.gov/security-alert-avoid-large-gatherings-over-the-next-48-hours/ https://ru.usembassy.gov/security-alert-avoid-large-gatherin...
- cabirum 3y ago
  That looked more like an announcement, not a warning.
  - vik0 3y ago
    And what are you implying exactly?
    - usa1984 3y ago
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  - luuurker 3y ago
    Many countries share information they have about imminent terrorist attacks with each other even when they don't have good relations. Russia and the US have done this before.
- wslh 3y ago
  We never know how is all connected but also China and Russia vetoed an US resolution [1] today. Not saying that there is a connection at all but we are living crazy times and it is very difficult, if not impossible, to understand the complexity and acceleration of events around. Staying awake for more information. BTW how many times China and Russia vetoed at the same time resolutions at the UN? Countin that from [2]. [1] https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/un-security-council-fails-pass-us-resolution-calling-immediate-ceasefire-gaza-2024-03-22/ https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/un-security-counci... [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_vetoed_United_Nations_Security_Council_resolutions?wprov=sfti1 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_vetoed_United_Nations_...
  - dvfjsdhgfv 3y ago
    > BTW how many times China and Russia vetoed at the same time resolutions at the UN? Countin that from [2]. Not sure what you mean... Should we be surprised? It is normal that whenever something is discussed, usually either China is against, or Russia, or both - and the list you linked to confirms that.
  - myth_drannon 3y ago
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- MathMonkeyMan 3y ago
  > [The US gov] issued its warning several hours after the FSB, the main successor to the Soviet-era KGB, said it had foiled an attack on a synagogue in Moscow by a cell of the militant Sunni Muslim group Islamic State.
- myth_drannon 3y ago
  That was related to the fake elections in Russia. It was expected that some people would attempt to protest and the police will react violently
baal80spam 3y ago
Polish news say at least 40 dead, 100 wounded: https://www.rp.pl/swiat/art40049351-strzelanina-w-sali-koncertowej-pod-moskwa-nieoficjalnie-sa-zabici-i-ranni https://www.rp.pl/swiat/art40049351-strzelanina-w-sali-konce...
- deleted 3y ago
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- marttt 3y ago
  FWIW, according to Estonian news, this is apparently information provided by TASS, the Russian state-owned news agency.
btilly 3y ago
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- blashyrk 3y ago
  Your comment made me understand why HN generally moderates/opts out of highly political topics.
- somenameforme 3y ago
  Look at yourself man. Take yourself back just 5 years ago, and try to imagine that in just 5 years you'd be the sort posting on the internet working as an apologist for literal terrorism. The propaganda over the past couple of years has just destroyed so many people's abilities to think. In the past I often wondered how you could ever get something like Germany 1934. And now, having lived through this mess, I find it kind of surprising that it hasn't happened yet again. Clearly all it takes is endless propaganda and ostracization of any dissent, and you can turn what I assume were perfectly good people, into the worst of people.
  - btilly 3y ago
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- usa1984 3y ago
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- klipklop 3y ago
  Killing people at a concert is not a legitimate way to oppose a tyrannical government. This was a cowardly act of terrorism.
amai 3y ago
FSB trying to stir up the public opinion in Russia again. Last time they did this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1999_Russian_apartment_bombings https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1999_Russian_apartment_bombing... In the aftermath Russia started the second war in Chechia. This time they are probably preparing the country for another mobilization against Ukraine. They already started to tell the russian public that they are at war: https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/kremlin-says-russia-is-war-due-western-intervention-ukrainian-side-2024-03-22/ https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/kremlin-says-russia-is-...
- TacticalCoder 3y ago
  > FSB trying to stir up the public opinion in Russia again. Wait. Islamic terrorists are now saying they did that attack in Russia on "christians". Are you saying that FSB members dressed as islamic terrorists and attacked their own people, all the while getting islamic terrorists to revendicate the attack? What about the attack by islamic terrorists in France, in Paris, at the Bataclan: where hundreds of civilians were executed. Was it a coup by the french secret service to stir up public opinion in France? Or, maybe, can we accept that islamic terrorism is a thing?
  - amai 3y ago
    „ A terrible terrorist attack. After the last terrible terrorist attack "Nord-Ost" we won in Chechnya. We are ready to win again. Let's give the civilian population of Ukraine 48 hours to leave the cities, and finally end this war with a victorious defeat of the enemy. Using all forces and means.“ See https://t.me/kvmalofeev/2577 https://t.me/kvmalofeev/2577, telegram channel of this guy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Konstantin_Malofeev https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Konstantin_Malofeev
    - hackerlight 3y ago
      It's still early. Let's wait and see who officials attribute this attack to in a few days. If they say it was Islamists, there's virtually zero chance that it was a false flag because that wouldn't help Putin.
iperboreo 3y ago
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42 points by wslh 3y ago

Two weeks ago the US gov warned about this https://ru.usembassy.gov/security-alert-avoid-large-gatherings-over-the-next-48-hours/ https://ru.usembassy.gov/security-alert-avoid-large-gatherin...

cabirum 3y ago
That looked more like an announcement, not a warning.
- vik0 3y ago
  And what are you implying exactly?
  - usa1984 3y ago
    [flagged]
- luuurker 3y ago
  Many countries share information they have about imminent terrorist attacks with each other even when they don't have good relations. Russia and the US have done this before.
wslh 3y ago
We never know how is all connected but also China and Russia vetoed an US resolution [1] today. Not saying that there is a connection at all but we are living crazy times and it is very difficult, if not impossible, to understand the complexity and acceleration of events around. Staying awake for more information. BTW how many times China and Russia vetoed at the same time resolutions at the UN? Countin that from [2]. [1] https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/un-security-council-fails-pass-us-resolution-calling-immediate-ceasefire-gaza-2024-03-22/ https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/un-security-counci... [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_vetoed_United_Nations_Security_Council_resolutions?wprov=sfti1 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_vetoed_United_Nations_...
- dvfjsdhgfv 3y ago
  > BTW how many times China and Russia vetoed at the same time resolutions at the UN? Countin that from [2]. Not sure what you mean... Should we be surprised? It is normal that whenever something is discussed, usually either China is against, or Russia, or both - and the list you linked to confirms that.
- myth_drannon 3y ago
  [flagged]
MathMonkeyMan 3y ago
> [The US gov] issued its warning several hours after the FSB, the main successor to the Soviet-era KGB, said it had foiled an attack on a synagogue in Moscow by a cell of the militant Sunni Muslim group Islamic State.
myth_drannon 3y ago
That was related to the fake elections in Russia. It was expected that some people would attempt to protest and the police will react violently

baal80spam 3y ago

Polish news say at least 40 dead, 100 wounded: https://www.rp.pl/swiat/art40049351-strzelanina-w-sali-koncertowej-pod-moskwa-nieoficjalnie-sa-zabici-i-ranni https://www.rp.pl/swiat/art40049351-strzelanina-w-sali-konce...

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marttt 3y ago
FWIW, according to Estonian news, this is apparently information provided by TASS, the Russian state-owned news agency.

btilly 3y ago

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blashyrk 3y ago
Your comment made me understand why HN generally moderates/opts out of highly political topics.
somenameforme 3y ago
Look at yourself man. Take yourself back just 5 years ago, and try to imagine that in just 5 years you'd be the sort posting on the internet working as an apologist for literal terrorism. The propaganda over the past couple of years has just destroyed so many people's abilities to think. In the past I often wondered how you could ever get something like Germany 1934. And now, having lived through this mess, I find it kind of surprising that it hasn't happened yet again. Clearly all it takes is endless propaganda and ostracization of any dissent, and you can turn what I assume were perfectly good people, into the worst of people.
- btilly 3y ago
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usa1984 3y ago
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klipklop 3y ago
Killing people at a concert is not a legitimate way to oppose a tyrannical government. This was a cowardly act of terrorism.

amai 3y ago

FSB trying to stir up the public opinion in Russia again. Last time they did this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1999_Russian_apartment_bombings https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1999_Russian_apartment_bombing... In the aftermath Russia started the second war in Chechia. This time they are probably preparing the country for another mobilization against Ukraine. They already started to tell the russian public that they are at war: https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/kremlin-says-russia-is-war-due-western-intervention-ukrainian-side-2024-03-22/ https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/kremlin-says-russia-is-...

TacticalCoder 3y ago
> FSB trying to stir up the public opinion in Russia again. Wait. Islamic terrorists are now saying they did that attack in Russia on "christians". Are you saying that FSB members dressed as islamic terrorists and attacked their own people, all the while getting islamic terrorists to revendicate the attack? What about the attack by islamic terrorists in France, in Paris, at the Bataclan: where hundreds of civilians were executed. Was it a coup by the french secret service to stir up public opinion in France? Or, maybe, can we accept that islamic terrorism is a thing?
- amai 3y ago
  „ A terrible terrorist attack. After the last terrible terrorist attack "Nord-Ost" we won in Chechnya. We are ready to win again. Let's give the civilian population of Ukraine 48 hours to leave the cities, and finally end this war with a victorious defeat of the enemy. Using all forces and means.“ See https://t.me/kvmalofeev/2577 https://t.me/kvmalofeev/2577, telegram channel of this guy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Konstantin_Malofeev https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Konstantin_Malofeev
  - hackerlight 3y ago
    It's still early. Let's wait and see who officials attribute this attack to in a few days. If they say it was Islamists, there's virtually zero chance that it was a false flag because that wouldn't help Putin.

iperboreo 3y ago

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