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From the Department of Justice: > Apple’s smartwatch—Apple Watch—is only compatible with the iPhone. So, if Apple can steer a user towards buying an Apple Wat

From the Department of Justice: > Apple’s smartwatch—Apple Watch—is only compatible with the iPhone. So, if Apple can steer a user towards buying an Apple Watch, it becomes more costly for that user to purchase a different kind of smartphone > Apple uses its control of the iPhone, including its technical and contractual control of critical APIs, to degrade the functionality of third-party cross-platform smartwatches

zer00eyz 3y ago
> https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2024/01/fossil-smartwatches-go-extinct-company-quits-wear-os-ecosystem/ https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2024/01/fossil-smartwatches-... Apple makes the only functional smart watch. Fossil got fucked over and left. Google did nothing with Fitbit (dead). Samsung as a product excites no one (I own a Samsung phone, I dont want a Samsung watch).
- asdajksah2123 3y ago
  The argument has nothing to do with what Apple's competitors are doing. The DoJ claim you're responding to applies even if a non Apple smartwatch maker didn't exist. The issue is that the Apple Watch does not work on non iPhone smartphones, so this is an additional burden Apple has added to someone wanting to switch away from the iPhone, that they can't use the Apple Watch they own anymore.
  - zer00eyz 3y ago
    >>> The issue is that the Apple Watch does not work on non iPhone smartphones, so this is an additional burden Apple has added to someone wanting to switch away from the iPhone, that they can't use the Apple Watch they own anymore. Printer ink? Cpu sockets? Are we going to compel apple to support intel chips again? Should Intel and AMD be forced to support old ram standards cause you happen to want to use that particular combination. I dont think the DOJ has good enough lawyers to win this very tenuous argument. Im not even sure if they should. There are much better arguments to make both on merit and cause.
- nradov 3y ago
  Garmin smartwatches are functional. Some of them include functionality that isn't even available in Apple watches. But in other areas they are deficient. It really depends on what you're looking for.
- freedomben 3y ago
  Google did not do "nothing with Fitbit (dead)." You can buy new Fitbit's right now. They also incorporated a lot of Fitbit tech into the Pixel Watch, which is also a very functional smart watch.

zer00eyz 3y ago

> https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2024/01/fossil-smartwatches-go-extinct-company-quits-wear-os-ecosystem/ https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2024/01/fossil-smartwatches-... Apple makes the only functional smart watch. Fossil got fucked over and left. Google did nothing with Fitbit (dead). Samsung as a product excites no one (I own a Samsung phone, I dont want a Samsung watch).

asdajksah2123 3y ago
The argument has nothing to do with what Apple's competitors are doing. The DoJ claim you're responding to applies even if a non Apple smartwatch maker didn't exist. The issue is that the Apple Watch does not work on non iPhone smartphones, so this is an additional burden Apple has added to someone wanting to switch away from the iPhone, that they can't use the Apple Watch they own anymore.
- zer00eyz 3y ago
  >>> The issue is that the Apple Watch does not work on non iPhone smartphones, so this is an additional burden Apple has added to someone wanting to switch away from the iPhone, that they can't use the Apple Watch they own anymore. Printer ink? Cpu sockets? Are we going to compel apple to support intel chips again? Should Intel and AMD be forced to support old ram standards cause you happen to want to use that particular combination. I dont think the DOJ has good enough lawyers to win this very tenuous argument. Im not even sure if they should. There are much better arguments to make both on merit and cause.
nradov 3y ago
Garmin smartwatches are functional. Some of them include functionality that isn't even available in Apple watches. But in other areas they are deficient. It really depends on what you're looking for.
freedomben 3y ago
Google did not do "nothing with Fitbit (dead)." You can buy new Fitbit's right now. They also incorporated a lot of Fitbit tech into the Pixel Watch, which is also a very functional smart watch.