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Japan is well known for violent political clashes. There is still a very obvious house in the middle of Narita Airport that you can see when flying in or out.

Japan is well known for violent political clashes. There is still a very obvious house in the middle of Narita Airport that you can see when flying in or out. There are roads to it underneath the airport.

acchow 3y ago
This is shocking to me https://www.cbsnews.com/news/narita-airport-farm-takao-shito-farmer-vows-protect-ancestral-land-japan/ https://www.cbsnews.com/news/narita-airport-farm-takao-shito... "The best outcome would be for the airport to shut down," he said. "But what's important is to keep farming my ancestral land." I imagine most countries would just use eminent domain?
- fsckboy 3y ago
  that article says that what he refers to as his ancestral lands have been farmed by his family for only a 100 years. hard for me to get worked up about such a short time
  - wolverine876 3y ago
    It doesn't matter if you or I get worked up about their land, it matters if they get worked up about their land and their heritage.
    - refulgentis 3y ago
      They haven't owned the land since before WWII, and they yadda yadda over why they weren't allowed to buy, reasons are related to military and took place during WWII.
      - wolverine876 3y ago
        > they yadda yadda They are talking about their lives and families, which they know intimately and on which much of their life depends. I don't know anything about them. Now if they talked about me, about whom they know nothing, then they'd be yadda yaddaing if you take my meaning.
        refulgentis 3y ago
        No. That's not what I said or close. Trying again: they were banned from buying land for reasons that are politely obscured, beyond it relating to their actions in the Japanese military during WWII.
  - pests 3y ago
    Gotta start somewhere, and I'm sure it means way more to him that it does to you. 100 years is a lifetime, do you never get worked up at all? Why bother, such a short lifespan we all live.
    - refulgentis 3y ago
      This is a whole other level than "worked up" - speaking of lifetimes - 12 people have died over it. Did you read it?
      - pests 3y ago
        We're talking about a guy and his ancestral home. Is he the reason 12 people died?
        refulgentis 3y ago
        Yes, according TFA and I'd argue yes as well, but it's a discussion.
  - paulddraper 3y ago
    What would you consider a medium amount of time? Also https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/cf343b06-f4a8-46fc-b124-1c61392b540c https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/cf343b06-f4a8-46fc-b124-1c61392...
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- dylan604 3y ago
  I wonder if all of the airport pollution and particulates adds any flavor to what is grown there
- lukan 3y ago
  "I imagine most countries would just use eminent domain" Japan also did it in this case in general, but not everywhere. Because having a law and enforcing a law is not the same - because there was determined resistance of all kinds. And by law they could have also expropriated that land, but that would have sparked more violent opposition. Apparently letting this farm as it is, was one of the compromises to have the airport at all, without riot police guarding it 24/7.
- wkat4242 3y ago
  > And since it sits smack in the middle of the airport, one of Narita's two runways had to be built around it. That's not a runway, but a taxiway. Runways have no curves ever.
  - snypher 3y ago
    Sometimes they do, eg; https://www.airnav.com/airport/S90 https://www.airnav.com/airport/S90
    - wkat4242 3y ago
      Ok yeah but that's really a bush strip, I was thinking of international airports :) But good point, fair enough. PS: That's really pretty dangerous, imagine having to compensate for crosswind changing directions, avoiding the trees at each side etc.. wow.
- erikpukinskis 3y ago
  I mean, it’s not even in the middle. It’s on the edge. On the opposite side of the airport is “The Museum of Aeronautical Sciences”. I don’t see any particular moral reason why that should exist instead of this persons farm.
- netsharc 3y ago
  BBC video about him: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhYm1oXBN2Y https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhYm1oXBN2Y

acchow 3y ago

This is shocking to me https://www.cbsnews.com/news/narita-airport-farm-takao-shito-farmer-vows-protect-ancestral-land-japan/ https://www.cbsnews.com/news/narita-airport-farm-takao-shito... "The best outcome would be for the airport to shut down," he said. "But what's important is to keep farming my ancestral land." I imagine most countries would just use eminent domain?

fsckboy 3y ago
that article says that what he refers to as his ancestral lands have been farmed by his family for only a 100 years. hard for me to get worked up about such a short time
- wolverine876 3y ago
  It doesn't matter if you or I get worked up about their land, it matters if they get worked up about their land and their heritage.
  - refulgentis 3y ago
    They haven't owned the land since before WWII, and they yadda yadda over why they weren't allowed to buy, reasons are related to military and took place during WWII.
    - wolverine876 3y ago
      > they yadda yadda They are talking about their lives and families, which they know intimately and on which much of their life depends. I don't know anything about them. Now if they talked about me, about whom they know nothing, then they'd be yadda yaddaing if you take my meaning.
      - refulgentis 3y ago
        No. That's not what I said or close. Trying again: they were banned from buying land for reasons that are politely obscured, beyond it relating to their actions in the Japanese military during WWII.
- pests 3y ago
  Gotta start somewhere, and I'm sure it means way more to him that it does to you. 100 years is a lifetime, do you never get worked up at all? Why bother, such a short lifespan we all live.
  - refulgentis 3y ago
    This is a whole other level than "worked up" - speaking of lifetimes - 12 people have died over it. Did you read it?
    - pests 3y ago
      We're talking about a guy and his ancestral home. Is he the reason 12 people died?
      - refulgentis 3y ago
        Yes, according TFA and I'd argue yes as well, but it's a discussion.
- paulddraper 3y ago
  What would you consider a medium amount of time? Also https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/cf343b06-f4a8-46fc-b124-1c61392b540c https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/cf343b06-f4a8-46fc-b124-1c61392...
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dylan604 3y ago
I wonder if all of the airport pollution and particulates adds any flavor to what is grown there
lukan 3y ago
"I imagine most countries would just use eminent domain" Japan also did it in this case in general, but not everywhere. Because having a law and enforcing a law is not the same - because there was determined resistance of all kinds. And by law they could have also expropriated that land, but that would have sparked more violent opposition. Apparently letting this farm as it is, was one of the compromises to have the airport at all, without riot police guarding it 24/7.
wkat4242 3y ago
> And since it sits smack in the middle of the airport, one of Narita's two runways had to be built around it. That's not a runway, but a taxiway. Runways have no curves ever.
- snypher 3y ago
  Sometimes they do, eg; https://www.airnav.com/airport/S90 https://www.airnav.com/airport/S90
  - wkat4242 3y ago
    Ok yeah but that's really a bush strip, I was thinking of international airports :) But good point, fair enough. PS: That's really pretty dangerous, imagine having to compensate for crosswind changing directions, avoiding the trees at each side etc.. wow.
erikpukinskis 3y ago
I mean, it’s not even in the middle. It’s on the edge. On the opposite side of the airport is “The Museum of Aeronautical Sciences”. I don’t see any particular moral reason why that should exist instead of this persons farm.
netsharc 3y ago
BBC video about him: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhYm1oXBN2Y https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhYm1oXBN2Y