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Those systems are trivial to shut down by any central authority. I would not classify those as decentralized.

0xedd 3y ago
Did you tell Hollywood your secret? They're dying to know how to "trivially shut down" all the decentral media sharing going on for decades. Even China's Great Firewall has its hole-punchers (https://github.com/barry-far/V2ray-Configs https://github.com/barry-far/V2ray-Configs). Maybe they have an opening for Grand Master of Reality position you can apply to.
- datadeft 3y ago
  What do you think how much % of internet users are capable of using the tool you linked? Do you think a p50 user goes for such measures to get to a service?
  - allarm 3y ago
    That was a nice change of direction from "it's trivial to shut down" to "how many users are capable". And the answer is - basically every single one of them is capable, it's just a matter of motivation. The right tools exist, the learning curve is somewhat steep, but this is irrelevant.
    - datadeft 3y ago
      No it is not. Those are interchangeable. > basically every single one of them is capable Absolutely not. My mother is not capable of doing that.
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      - allarm 3y ago
        What is interchangeable, your lie about "it's trivial to shut down" and your bs about "oh but that's too difficult"? Those are two different things, even though both of them are not true. And sure, you missed my point about motivation, probably on purpose. If (for example) for your mother using these tools was the only way to contact her close relatives I'm sure she would have found the way. Mine would.
crtasm 3y ago
How do you imagine they could shut down torrents and ipfs?
- datadeft 3y ago
  Like making it illegal and fining it? https://www.reddit.com/r/germany/comments/2hxy4j/help_me_german_pirates_torrent https://www.reddit.com/r/germany/comments/2hxy4j/help_me_ger... Or blocking the bootstrapping? https://www.reddit.com/r/ipfs/comments/tzrkoc/is_ipfs_blocked_on_my_country_wouldnt_it_defeat/ https://www.reddit.com/r/ipfs/comments/tzrkoc/is_ipfs_blocke... There are plenty of options.
  - crtasm 3y ago
    Making something illegal isn't "shutting it down". Your IPFS link is a screenshot of someone failing to access docs.ipfs.io in a standard webbrowser over HTTP. Are you aware how many people use VPNs? Also take a look at how Tor Project hand out unlisted entry points into their network - IPFS could take a similar approach if it really came to it.

Did you tell Hollywood your secret? They're dying to know how to "trivially shut down" all the decentral media sharing going on for decades. Even China's Great Firewall has its hole-punchers (https://github.com/barry-far/V2ray-Configs https://github.com/barry-far/V2ray-Configs). Maybe they have an opening for Grand Master of Reality position you can apply to.

datadeft 3y ago
What do you think how much % of internet users are capable of using the tool you linked? Do you think a p50 user goes for such measures to get to a service?
- allarm 3y ago
  That was a nice change of direction from "it's trivial to shut down" to "how many users are capable". And the answer is - basically every single one of them is capable, it's just a matter of motivation. The right tools exist, the learning curve is somewhat steep, but this is irrelevant.
  - datadeft 3y ago
    No it is not. Those are interchangeable. > basically every single one of them is capable Absolutely not. My mother is not capable of doing that.
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    - allarm 3y ago
      What is interchangeable, your lie about "it's trivial to shut down" and your bs about "oh but that's too difficult"? Those are two different things, even though both of them are not true. And sure, you missed my point about motivation, probably on purpose. If (for example) for your mother using these tools was the only way to contact her close relatives I'm sure she would have found the way. Mine would.

crtasm 3y ago

How do you imagine they could shut down torrents and ipfs?

datadeft 3y ago
Like making it illegal and fining it? https://www.reddit.com/r/germany/comments/2hxy4j/help_me_german_pirates_torrent https://www.reddit.com/r/germany/comments/2hxy4j/help_me_ger... Or blocking the bootstrapping? https://www.reddit.com/r/ipfs/comments/tzrkoc/is_ipfs_blocked_on_my_country_wouldnt_it_defeat/ https://www.reddit.com/r/ipfs/comments/tzrkoc/is_ipfs_blocke... There are plenty of options.
- crtasm 3y ago
  Making something illegal isn't "shutting it down". Your IPFS link is a screenshot of someone failing to access docs.ipfs.io in a standard webbrowser over HTTP. Are you aware how many people use VPNs? Also take a look at how Tor Project hand out unlisted entry points into their network - IPFS could take a similar approach if it really came to it.