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I fail to see what is so wrong with the advice given. My wife has a good friend (a childhood neighbor, a woman) who's having trouble finding a man to be with an
by anon291 3y ago
I fail to see what is so wrong with the advice given. My wife has a good friend (a childhood neighbor, a woman) who's having trouble finding a man to be with and the advice given by my mother-in-law and her mother was to move to a place with more men than women. Various suggestions included Alaska, the Oil Fields of ND (she's a teacher, which I hear are in demand in these places), etc.
It seems to me that for some reason, any dating advice that might benefit men is automatically assumed to be misogynistic. Is this advice any different than telling a man to go somewhere with lots of women of the kind he'd want to marry? What's so wrong with it.
- dekhn 3y agotwo things here- it's the bay area so people are progressive/sensitive to anything about gender especially generalizations. But also it looks like this guy has set himself up as anti-woke so I suspect people are happy to take any infraction to leadership to get him in trouble. Remember, in Alaska, the odds are good, but the goods are odd.
- TOMDM 3y agoThe problem with the advice wasn't that it suggested going somewhere with more women, the problem was that it implicitly suggested that the behaviour of the local women made them poor prospects for dating. I can imagine this would be very alienating for the women in his class.
- ev7 3y agoI’m a current student in his class and the response from women (students and course staff) has been strongly negative for the most part.
- strikelaserclaw 3y agoI wonder what the men in those classes really think if they weren't scared of being publicly flogged
- idontknowifican 3y agoi think it plays into the whole “men are scared of smart women” trope
- kcplate 3y agoAlso “smart women are not as interested in men” trope…
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- nkurz 3y agoYour comment is ambiguous. Could you clarify? Are they negative toward the behavior that is being condemned, or negative toward the condemnation? Are they pro- or anti-Shewchuk?
- anon291 3y agoI mean everyone is a 'poor prospect for dating' for the majority of people on the planet. No one should be offended by not being a good prospect for dating by one individual man / woman. For example, I'm a married man, thus would be a real terrible dating prospect in general.
- ajross 3y agoAgain though, it's the generalism that is offensive. It's the difference between "I disagree" (not offensive) and "You're always wrong" (offensive).
- marshray 3y agoThe most obvious problem with it is that he used an official classroom forum to dispense dating advice specifically to his students. Students who were just there to learn couldn't really avoid it. The student asking for the advice probably shouldn't have been doing it on that platform either. But due to the Professor's unprofessional remarks, what could have been a friendly and valuable teaching opportunity about workplace norms in the US instead turned into a gross objectification of a section of the students.
- anon291 3y agoSaying your dating prospects are likely to be better outside berkeley and the bay area is not an 'objectification' of women. Porn is objectifying (which I'm guessing Berkeley has no issue with, but what do I know). Dating advice is not. Oh goodness, what have we come to. Topsy turvy world, truly.
- marshray 3y agoThat's not all he said. Also, look up the meaning of the word 'prospect' before claiming it couldn't possibly be 'objectification'.
- anon291 3y agoprospect Something expected; a possibility Chances. Financial expectations, especially of success. I'm confused what is objectifying about that. You think the term 'marriage prospect' is objectifying?