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Longest-running example is Apple Maps displaying mapping on the lockscreen and having special bespoke turn-by-turn notifications, using a private API to which n

by jorvi 3y ago

Longest-running example is Apple Maps displaying mapping on the lockscreen and having special bespoke turn-by-turn notifications, using a private API to which no other navigation app has access to. The other big one is Apple muscling itself into the music streaming market by converting Music.app into Apple Music. In a fair world, Apple would have been required to show a pop-up that offered Spotify, Apple Music, Tidal, Deezer etc. in a random order. You can’t unmake an omelette, so I feel Apple should be forced to pay billions to these competing services as recompense.

mock-possum 3y ago
RIP lala.com, my first and favorite music streaming service - bought out by apple and summarily closed with previous users encouraged to migrate to Apple Music. I think I got a $15 credit or something. As if I needed a reason to further resent Apple.
mattl 3y ago
> by converting Music.app into Apple Music Apple made iTunes (which already supported Apple Music) into a dedicated Music app, and offloaded some of the other stuff iTunes could do into separate apps and the Finder.
- jorvi 3y ago
  I’m mostly talking about iOS. Mac market share isn’t too huge, but iPhone market share in the US (where Apple Music exploded in user count immediately after) is. Ordinarily I hate market interventions like this, but with iOS+Android being a duopoly, we don’t have a free market so special rules start to apply.
positus 3y ago
People know how to use the App Store. If they want Spotify they know how to find it. It is by no means unfair, immoral, or unethical for a company to prefer and promote their own products. On a personal note, I never in my life want to see advertisements for third-party software by default.
- cush 3y ago
  It is when they charge those companies 30%. It’s a competitive advantage only a monopoly can sustain
- tssge 3y ago
  >On a personal note, I never in my life want to see advertisements for third-party software by default. Maybe I misunderstood your point, but could you clarify a bit what you mean? If I open App Store on my iPhone, it is full of third-party software advertisements by default and I don't even know if they can be turned off.
  - positus 3y ago
    After downloading the software that I know I need I rarely ever open the App Store. I really only do for updates every once in a while. I don't mind them in the App Store because that is an appropriate place for them. Seeing them as apart of the normal platform UI (Microsoft Start menu, looking at you) is distasteful. I go out of my way to avoid advertisements both on and off the internet and my QOL has improved greatly as a result.
    - Dylan16807 3y ago
      > After downloading the software that I know I need I rarely ever open the App Store. > Seeing them as apart of the normal platform UI (Microsoft Start menu, looking at you) is distasteful. Then it doesn't sound like a one-time prompt as part of setup would be an issue.
- jorvi 3y ago
  > People know how to use the App Store. Apparently they didn’t because Apple Music boomed right after that change. > It is by no means unfair, immoral, or unethical for a company to prefer and promote their own products. It is when that company is one part of a duopoly, especially for a device pretty critical to daily life :+) > On a personal note, I never in my life want to see advertisements for third-party software by default. It’s a one-time pop-up, on opening the music app the first time. Same as the browser choice pop-up on your desktop. Hardly an advertisement.
HumblyTossed 3y ago
> Longest-running example is Apple Maps displaying mapping on the lockscreen and having special bespoke turn-by-turn notifications, using a private API to which no other navigation app has access to. This is a huge one! I love this feature, but really would like to see it shared with Google and Waze.

by jorvi 3y ago

mock-possum 3y ago

RIP lala.com, my first and favorite music streaming service - bought out by apple and summarily closed with previous users encouraged to migrate to Apple Music. I think I got a $15 credit or something. As if I needed a reason to further resent Apple.

mattl 3y ago

> by converting Music.app into Apple Music Apple made iTunes (which already supported Apple Music) into a dedicated Music app, and offloaded some of the other stuff iTunes could do into separate apps and the Finder.

jorvi 3y ago
I’m mostly talking about iOS. Mac market share isn’t too huge, but iPhone market share in the US (where Apple Music exploded in user count immediately after) is. Ordinarily I hate market interventions like this, but with iOS+Android being a duopoly, we don’t have a free market so special rules start to apply.

positus 3y ago

People know how to use the App Store. If they want Spotify they know how to find it. It is by no means unfair, immoral, or unethical for a company to prefer and promote their own products. On a personal note, I never in my life want to see advertisements for third-party software by default.

cush 3y ago
It is when they charge those companies 30%. It’s a competitive advantage only a monopoly can sustain
tssge 3y ago
>On a personal note, I never in my life want to see advertisements for third-party software by default. Maybe I misunderstood your point, but could you clarify a bit what you mean? If I open App Store on my iPhone, it is full of third-party software advertisements by default and I don't even know if they can be turned off.
- positus 3y ago
  After downloading the software that I know I need I rarely ever open the App Store. I really only do for updates every once in a while. I don't mind them in the App Store because that is an appropriate place for them. Seeing them as apart of the normal platform UI (Microsoft Start menu, looking at you) is distasteful. I go out of my way to avoid advertisements both on and off the internet and my QOL has improved greatly as a result.
  - Dylan16807 3y ago
    > After downloading the software that I know I need I rarely ever open the App Store. > Seeing them as apart of the normal platform UI (Microsoft Start menu, looking at you) is distasteful. Then it doesn't sound like a one-time prompt as part of setup would be an issue.
jorvi 3y ago
> People know how to use the App Store. Apparently they didn’t because Apple Music boomed right after that change. > It is by no means unfair, immoral, or unethical for a company to prefer and promote their own products. It is when that company is one part of a duopoly, especially for a device pretty critical to daily life :+) > On a personal note, I never in my life want to see advertisements for third-party software by default. It’s a one-time pop-up, on opening the music app the first time. Same as the browser choice pop-up on your desktop. Hardly an advertisement.

HumblyTossed 3y ago

> Longest-running example is Apple Maps displaying mapping on the lockscreen and having special bespoke turn-by-turn notifications, using a private API to which no other navigation app has access to. This is a huge one! I love this feature, but really would like to see it shared with Google and Waze.